From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NtoRh-0003r0-8H for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 20:41:58 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C5E60E0845; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 20:41:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2B38E0845 for ; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 20:41:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38DE61B400B for ; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 20:41:35 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at gentoo.org X-Spam-Score: -2.271 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.271 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=-1.161, BAYES_05=-1.11] Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3x0Fk31FtBZr for ; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 20:41:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A8DE67C02 for ; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 20:41:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NtoR7-00079S-8f for gentoo-user@gentoo.org; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 21:41:21 +0100 Received: from athedsl-388468.home.otenet.gr ([79.131.69.114]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 21:41:21 +0100 Received: from realnc by athedsl-388468.home.otenet.gr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 21:41:21 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org From: Nikos Chantziaras Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: help Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 22:41:14 +0200 Organization: Lucas Barks Message-ID: References: <201003201803.12902.info@i-vartai.lt> <201003221917.54950.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> <4BA7C336.1000103@konstantinhansen.de> <201003221940.47969.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> <4BA7D434.1000800@kutulu.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: athedsl-388468.home.otenet.gr User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100307 Thunderbird/3.0.3 In-Reply-To: <4BA7D434.1000800@kutulu.org> X-Archives-Salt: f7740603-8fe1-4d4c-85ba-279dc96dd70a X-Archives-Hash: 275e40486864557174b585a6e88388bf On 03/22/2010 10:33 PM, Mike Edenfield wrote: > On 3/22/2010 3:40 PM, Mick wrote: >> On Monday 22 March 2010 19:21:26 KH wrote: >>> Am 22.03.2010 20:17, schrieb Mick: >>>> TBH, I wouldn't pay money for it but as many OEM impose a MSWindows tax >>>> on all of us I had no other option if I wanted to buy this particular >>>> laptop. >>> >>> You can refuse the license agreement and give windows back. If you are >>> lucky, the vendor will give you some money back. >> >> Getting money back from Dell?!! It'll be like squeezing blood out of a >> stone. ;-) >> >> Seriously though, I've asked them to take it off for me and they said that >> this is "not an option"! > > Particularly annoying is the fact that Dell claims to be "Linux > friendly". Which is apparently shorthand for: > > "Sure, we'll happily sell you one of three crappy laptop models with > Ubuntu pre-installed, at a slight discount, while bombarding you with > 'Dell Recommends Windows' ads while you shop. What's that? You want a > desktop machine with Linux? Are you insane?" Dell mainly sells "Windows Computers", not "Computers". If someone doesn't like that, why buy one? There's a gazillion of e-shops selling custom machines.