From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NkMYM-00085L-Rs for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 24 Feb 2010 19:05:47 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 74AC9E1040 for ; Wed, 24 Feb 2010 19:05:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F391E0ECC for ; Wed, 24 Feb 2010 18:31:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A756D1B421C for ; Wed, 24 Feb 2010 18:31:33 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at gentoo.org X-Spam-Score: -2.347 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.347 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=-1.138, BAYES_00=-2.599, PLING_QUERY=1.39] Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jEmvg0nWY-hH for ; Wed, 24 Feb 2010 18:31:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A33161B4127 for ; Wed, 24 Feb 2010 18:31:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NkM14-0001cj-9D for gentoo-user@gentoo.org; Wed, 24 Feb 2010 19:31:22 +0100 Received: from athedsl-382579.home.otenet.gr ([79.131.46.113]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 24 Feb 2010 19:31:22 +0100 Received: from realnc by athedsl-382579.home.otenet.gr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 24 Feb 2010 19:31:22 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org From: Nikos Chantziaras Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: KDE? Get me out of here! Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 20:31:12 +0200 Organization: Lucas Barks Message-ID: References: <9acccfe51002231827q26e94e64s7f29ec46b6675156@mail.gmail.com> <201002241808.12043.volkerarmin@googlemail.com> <201002241857.58511.volkerarmin@googlemail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: athedsl-382579.home.otenet.gr User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100206 Thunderbird/3.0.1 In-Reply-To: <201002241857.58511.volkerarmin@googlemail.com> X-Archives-Salt: c68f2f0d-5dde-4561-9c89-cb37fe7d10a2 X-Archives-Hash: ea344c61f5755f7db8359aebac306289 On 02/24/2010 07:57 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > On Mittwoch 24 Februar 2010, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: >> On 02/24/2010 07:08 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: >>> On Mittwoch 24 Februar 2010, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: >>>> On 02/24/2010 06:43 PM, Mike Edenfield wrote: >>>>> On 2/24/2010 8:41 AM, Zeerak Mustafa Waseem wrote: >>>>>> On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 03:38:09PM +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: >>>>>>> On 02/24/2010 04:27 AM, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: >>>>>>>> I've been using KDE for a long time, for reasons that are no longer >>>>>>>> important to me. I have remained out of pure inertia. >>>>>>>> I use gnome happily at work, both on Fedora and Ubuntu. All I need >>>>>>>> from any of them is a panel with some favorites, and a pager for >>>>>>>> multiple desktops. >>>>>>>> I spend most of my time in vim, in the C program and documentation >>>>>>>> toolchains or in a browser. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The reason I bring this up is that my account just froze on me from >>>>>>>> running out of disk space. A little research showed that an >>>>>>>> odd-sounding thing called nepomuk was using 7.2 G (SEVEN GIGS) in >>>>>>>> some dotfiles. It turns out to be a KDE client - whatever that is. >>>>>>>> I've got a lot of space here and there, but my /home partition was >>>>>>>> never near full before. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Put "-semantic-desktop" in your make.conf. emerge -auDN world. >>>>>>> emerge -a --depclean. That should do it. >>>>>> >>>>>> Is that even possible? Won't a number of KDE apps demand the >>>>>> semantic-desktop use flag set? >>>>> >>>>> For KDE 4.4, +semantic-desktop is mandatory, though you can still turn >>>>> off the services after installing them. >>>>> >>>>> Honestly, for what the OP appears to need out of a desktop environment, >>>>> he'd be more than happy with Xfce or something and save a ton of disk >>>>> space. >>>> >>>> How do you know what he needs? He probably wants KDE but without the >>>> whole "Semantic Desktop" thingy. >>> >>> he wrote: >>>> Thanks. My having research work with a few hundred thousand small files >>> >>> and a couple of terrabytes of storage and backups could account for the >>> size. Some occasional sluggishness too. It makes no sense to index any >>> of this, so ditching it feels good. >>> >>> and semantic-desktop was developed to help people with such workloads. >> >> I don't understand your reply or what it answers. > > because you haven't read the thread before you wrote your email? Yeah, I'm the one who suggested the OP needs semantic desktop even though he clearly stated he doesn't: "It makes no sense to index any of this, so ditching it feels good." Perhaps it's a language barrier. I'll state it in simpler words: The OP does not want to index any of his files. He wants to disable that functionality. He has not indicated that he wants to switch from KDE to something else. OK, another poster then showed up and suggested that he needs something other than KDE. That didn't make any sense since the OP is using KDE and just wants the indexing stuff gone, which is what I pointed out. Then you come along with the statement as a reply to it: "and semantic-desktop was developed to help people with such workloads." which doesn't make any sense with the flow of the discussion. Semantic desktop was invented for that, but the OP clearly stated he doesn't want it. I am not the one who doesn't read the thread before writing my email.