From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NZXPm-0002sA-Rm for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 25 Jan 2010 22:28:12 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7E4CAE0BF8; Mon, 25 Jan 2010 22:27:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33913E0BF8 for ; Mon, 25 Jan 2010 22:27:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE8F31B4046 for ; Mon, 25 Jan 2010 22:27:23 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at gentoo.org X-Spam-Score: -3.089 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.089 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=-0.490, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1cI6LrG1gs1N for ; Mon, 25 Jan 2010 22:27:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C8D2670DE for ; Mon, 25 Jan 2010 22:27:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1NZXOn-000633-DB for gentoo-user@gentoo.org; Mon, 25 Jan 2010 23:27:09 +0100 Received: from athedsl-372291.home.otenet.gr ([79.131.6.65]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 25 Jan 2010 23:27:09 +0100 Received: from realnc by athedsl-372291.home.otenet.gr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 25 Jan 2010 23:27:09 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org From: Nikos Chantziaras Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: KDE 4.3.95 tarballs? Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 00:26:48 +0200 Organization: Lucas Barks Message-ID: References: <201001252326.48465.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> <201001252306.50516.volkerarmin@googlemail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: athedsl-372291.home.otenet.gr User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100122 Thunderbird/3.0.1 In-Reply-To: <201001252306.50516.volkerarmin@googlemail.com> Sender: news X-Archives-Salt: c4e30922-f558-4b30-b6c2-79505570e694 X-Archives-Hash: 46f7c679723cbab8322960dc7d767194 On 01/26/2010 12:06 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > On Montag 25 Januar 2010, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> On Monday 25 January 2010 23:11:18 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: >>>> Today it is finally released. I don't know why it took so long. :) >>> >>> It's a bit sad though that an open source project keeps secrets... I >>> found out that the tarballs were available for days now but only for >>> maintainers of KDE packages of various distros. For example Arch Linux >>> had RC2 binaries available in its [kde-unstable] repo since Jan 21, but >>> no one would give a link to the tarballs used to build the sources >>> because they are "secret". >>> >>> Am I the only one to find this frustrating (to say the least)? >> >> There's nothing secret here. Nothing to see, move along folks. >> >> The code is always available in svn, if you wanted it that bad you could >> have checked it out. It's common release engineering practice to build a >> tarball from the repo and provide limited access to *those* files to >> distros and mirrors to give them time to sync and build their binaries >> before making them available to the public. I mirror Ubuntu and Fedora. >> The deal is that I get the rpms and debs two days before the public does. >> This is so that every official mirror on the planet is ready to >> simultaneously publish the release *all*at*the*same*time*. >> >> This is a very excellent way of working. You have no idea how much chaos >> thousands of eager beaver users cause pounding away at my inbox if I don't >> have the latest Ubuntu for them the day it is released because sharks bit >> the undersea cable to London and the inbound bandwidth slows to a crawl. >> I'm not making this up - stuff like this happens. >> >> Gentoo erred in publishing ebuilds for tarballs that were not generally >> available yet. >> > > no, the user erred in stupid unmasking. The user used the provided unmask file (Documentation/package.unmask/kde-4.4).