From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NESU8-0004I2-Ek for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 18:57:32 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4F282E078E; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 18:56:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11611E078E for ; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 18:56:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94FFD67B49 for ; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 18:56:49 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at gentoo.org X-Spam-Score: -0.532 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.532 required=5.5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO=2.067] Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HXRkqdj5F9fg for ; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 18:56:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5310967B83 for ; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 18:56:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1NESTC-0001VU-NE for gentoo-user@gentoo.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 19:56:34 +0100 Received: from 109.192.18.10 ([109.192.18.10]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 19:56:34 +0100 Received: from joerg.schaible by 109.192.18.10 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 19:56:34 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: gentoo-user@gentoo.org To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?J=F6rg?= Schaible Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: FIXED: Re: KDE3 removal Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 19:56:11 +0100 Message-ID: References: <200911280015.38315.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> <200911281507.01966.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 109.192.18.10 Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: KNode/0.10.9 Sender: news Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 760f274f-b778-453e-a5a2-d2a9f64a02da X-Archives-Hash: a2d875162afd25da19a03c948aff5cf4 Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Saturday 28 November 2009 13:59:38 J=F6rg Schaible wrote: >> Alan McKinnon wrote: >> > On Friday 27 November 2009 23:07:25 J=F6rg Schaible wrote: >> >> Alan McKinnon wrote: >> >> > On Thursday 26 November 2009 19:34:34 James wrote: >> >> >> kde-4.3.1 went smooth, except >> >> >> for I have to manually removed all the kde-3.5 packages. >> >> >> It had kde-meta-3.5.10. Is there some syntax or a better >> >> >> method to insure all the kde-3.5.x packages are removed, >> >> >> without a manual sweep? >> >> > >> >> > grep kde /var/lib/portage/world >> >> > and eyeball the output. There should only be -meta packages, and >> >> > individual packages for which you have NOT installed the -meta >> >> > package, in there. vi the world file and remove the stuff that >> >> > shouldn't be there, then >> >> > >> >> > emerge -C && emerge -a >> >> > --depclean >> >> >> >> as alternative simply append to all kde-base/* packages in world :4= .3 >> >> and do then a depclean ;-) >> > >> > Which promptly defeats the ENTIRE purpose of a world file and -meta >> > packages. >>=20 >> a) I've never used the meta packages, but selected my KDE apps on purp= ose >=20 > You missed the part where the user clearly states earlier that he DOES = use > -meta packages. With that in mind, any advice you give should be aligne= d > to the fact that he is a -meta user > >> b) it's a lot easier this way to get rid of the KDE 3 stuff, however y= ou >> should get drop of the slot again after depclean has been finished >=20 > How is it easier? You have to maintain the SLOTs in world yourself beca= use > the instant you do that portage will not automagically offer to upgrade > anymore (upgrades within the same slot excepted). And --depclean will N= OT > adjust your SLOTs in world when it's finished. I can't really make sens= e > of your last sentence but that is what you seem to imply Yes, that's what I've said. Drop the slot again after depclean has finish= ed. Exactly because of the upgrades. >> > If that's how you want to admin your box, >>=20 >> I am using long enough Gentoo that I remember very well the times when >> portage destroyed the world file completely. >=20 > That was long ago and no longer applicable. That bug in portage got fix= ed, > so a behaviour on your part to compensate for a bug that is not there i= s > outdated behaviour. > >> And regenworld put *anything* >> into world at that time. Therefore I know very well, what should be in >> this file and what not. There's no magic. >=20 > Yes, the only things in world are packages you want that are not > dependencies of something else already in world. You are advising the u= ser > to put the dependencies of -meta packages into world No. I adviced him to add :4.3 to all kde-base/* packages that *are* in world.=20 > when the -meta=20 > package is already there. It does not matter in this case if the package is -meta or not. >=20 > And that is plain silly > =20 >> > can I recommend you switch to >> > sabayon instead? >>=20 >> ROFL! So, you mean, if users get too smart, Gentoo is no longer their >> distribution? Don't be silly. >=20 > Erm, you should read the whole thread and realise the bits you missed - > the bits that make your statements nonsensical All I did, was offering an alternative method to get rid of KDE 3 using depclean without the need to identify every package individually. Feel free to ignore it. - J=F6rg