From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1N26ZX-0005VD-IA for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 25 Oct 2009 17:08:03 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9102DE08F6; Sun, 25 Oct 2009 17:08:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DDABE08F6 for ; Sun, 25 Oct 2009 17:08:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C6FA667A9 for ; Sun, 25 Oct 2009 17:08:02 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at gentoo.org X-Spam-Score: -3.175 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.175 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=-0.576, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id W4Owv6l6jvVV for ; Sun, 25 Oct 2009 17:07:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B91066F6B for ; Sun, 25 Oct 2009 17:07:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1N26ZK-0008Sx-Fp for gentoo-user@gentoo.org; Sun, 25 Oct 2009 18:07:50 +0100 Received: from adsl-69-234-187-231.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net ([69.234.187.231]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 25 Oct 2009 18:07:50 +0100 Received: from w41ter by adsl-69-234-187-231.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 25 Oct 2009 18:07:50 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org From: walt Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: Gnome audio (mixer) question [SOLVED YET AGAIN] Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 10:07:23 -0700 Message-ID: References: Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: adsl-69-234-187-231.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.3a1pre) Gecko/20091025 Shredder/3.1a1pre In-Reply-To: Sender: news X-Archives-Salt: 9d9c7bfb-a26e-45ba-b429-47fff605ffe7 X-Archives-Hash: b5edd9ce1bcdcb06ac7779a3521ac69a On 10/25/2009 08:19 AM, walt wrote: > Merging gnome-media with the pulseaudio USE flag breaks > gnome-volume-control most horribly IMO, but OTOH I don't > understand pulseaudio, so maybe I'm wrong. I found the gnome 2.26 upgrade guide, which points to the pulseaudio documentation. It seems that pulseaudio has its own mixer control (not included in gentoo's pulseaudio package) so maybe it does make sense to remove that function from gnome's volume control applet. However, the most important thing I learned is that I have no use whatever for pulseaudio -- and I doubt that many other people do, either. It seems to be a massively complex solution hunting for a problem. How many of us want/need to play two or more soundtracks at the same time? If I'm wrong about this, please correct me. I'd like to know why all those devs spent so much energy building it. Thanks.