From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MxQiL-0002HA-MW for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 19:37:50 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A93E6E07BB; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 19:37:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87DBFE07BB for ; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 19:37:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 306B667DC1 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 19:37:48 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at gentoo.org X-Spam-Score: -3.064 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.064 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=-0.465, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QUQje0+6UJt7 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 19:37:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6420967DBA for ; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 19:37:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1MxQi4-0006hJ-MS for gentoo-user@gentoo.org; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 21:37:32 +0200 Received: from mn-69-34-67-62.sta.embarqhsd.net ([69.34.67.62]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 21:37:32 +0200 Received: from grant.b.edwards by mn-69-34-67-62.sta.embarqhsd.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 21:37:32 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org From: Grant Edwards Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: What is a "packet"? Was: Checksum error Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 19:37:07 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <20091011090443.GE21168@solfire> <200910111655.47494.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> <200910111802.07332.peter@humphrey.ukfsn.org> <200910112318.04285.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: mn-69-34-67-62.sta.embarqhsd.net User-Agent: slrn/pre0.9.9-102 (Linux) Sender: news X-Archives-Salt: 88705d2c-b0dc-4198-a5e0-eacf40396202 X-Archives-Hash: 1e27d65a1335593f09f13eb057ab24fa On 2009-10-11, Alan McKinnon wrote: > English is a mess. As a language it's worse than a pig's > breakfast and makes almost no sense whatsoever to non-native > speakers. Mind you, it makes about as much sense to native > speakers as well :-) I had to take 5 years of Latin study in > high school to understand how my own mother tongue works. Sad > indictment for a language wouldn't you say? At least we mostly got rid of the whole gender mess and only have to worry about objective/subjective case for a few cases. During a mostly futile attempt to learn German, I had occasion to read Mark Twin's essay on Germain articles. IIRC, plotting out all of the combinations for "the" takes something like a 3x9 grid -- Grant Edwards grante Yow! What I want to find at out is -- do parrots know visi.com much about Astro-Turf?