From: Caveman Al Toraboran <toraboracaveman@protonmail.com>
To: "gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org" <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>
Subject: Re: [OBORONA-SPAM] Re: [OBORONA-SPAM] Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo dead?
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 12:35:38 +0000 [thread overview]
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On Wednesday, April 22, 2020 8:32 PM, Michael Jones <gentoo@jonesmz.com> wrote:
> > No-no. C++ is a nightmare. A few people want to use it.
>
> C++ is an extremely widespread language with millions of lines of code written daily world wide.
i think that might be misleading as it seems to
imply that being a c++ dev is mutually exclusive
against being a c dev (is it? the languages agree on
many syntaxes/features).
i think the right way of thinking is as follows:
1. identify programming features needed to code
a reliable pms. i think most likely all we
need is [recursive] function calls and
if/else/loops. the rest probably has to do
with algorithms (independent of the language).
2. pick language that has features (1) and has the
largest users base. if the set of features in
(1) is small enough (such as ones i suggested),
then the c++ developers should be counted as c
developers (because that part is common between
c++ and c).
3. apply occam's razor. if two languages are
equally satisfying points (1) and (2), then
choose the simplest one. but if my thought is
correct (that we only need the subset of
features in c++ that's already in c), then c is
guaranteed to have a greater effective number
of developers in step (2). hence, we will not
even need to apply occam's razor to remove c++
(unless points (1) and (2) result in a tie,
which i don't think it does in this case).
> Lots of people want to use it. Just not people who want to write a PMS compliant package manager.
probably same kind of people that are headed to
blow their legs (and ours) in the process.
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2020-04-21 22:36 ` Michael Jones
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