From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1McMSL-0005Hp-UK for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 16:50:16 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id ACEB1E0304; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 16:50:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 878FBE0304 for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 16:50:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26C0D6481F for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 16:50:11 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at gentoo.org X-Spam-Score: -3.557 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.557 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=0.042, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DBhvqGUHi0WW for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 16:50:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3541C643DC for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 16:50:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1McMS5-0008TG-VA for gentoo-user@gentoo.org; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 16:49:57 +0000 Received: from athedsl-378031.home.otenet.gr ([79.131.28.173]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 16:49:57 +0000 Received: from realnc by athedsl-378031.home.otenet.gr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 16:49:57 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org From: Nikos Chantziaras Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: Gcc 4.3.4 ---> 4.4.1 Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 19:49:54 +0300 Organization: Lucas Barks Message-ID: References: <20090814231756.GA9536@crowfix.com> <20090815003356.GA21363@crowfix.com> <200908151750.29503.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> <5bdc1c8b0908150942y37996f4dtdf471a7456d64565@mail.gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: athedsl-378031.home.otenet.gr User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.1) Gecko/20090815 Thunderbird/3.0b3 In-Reply-To: <5bdc1c8b0908150942y37996f4dtdf471a7456d64565@mail.gmail.com> Sender: news X-Archives-Salt: 0d042e1b-f8db-4ec6-85c7-e10a9eefef6e X-Archives-Hash: a40dc92003de18ddfa6ee35ebedda729 On 08/15/2009 07:42 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: > [...] > I agree with your description, but I disagree that the upgrade > guide is actually very clear about this. It has us upgrade the > compiler (OK), switch to the new compiler (OK), rebuild the libtool > stuff (OK) then then states: > > http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gcc-upgrading.xml > > > To be completely safe that your system is in a sane state, you must > rebuild the toolchain and then world to make use of the new compiler. > > Code Listing 2.2: Rebuilding system > > # emerge -eav system > # emerge -eav world > > > Who, reading this, wouldn't want to be safe and sane? I doesn't say > 'might', 'could' or even 'should'. It says 'must'. No one knows. The devs aren't magicians :P For this specific update, there no problems *expected*. But there's no guarantee. If you want a guarantee, no one can give it to you other than yourself doing a rebuild of system&world.