From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <gentoo-user+bounces-97661-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org>) id 1MNmAf-00016d-Ub for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 06 Jul 2009 11:15:42 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4373CE0431; Mon, 6 Jul 2009 11:15:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0811FE0431 for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Mon, 6 Jul 2009 11:15:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4B6064F9C for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Mon, 6 Jul 2009 11:15:39 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at gentoo.org X-Spam-Score: -4.113 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.113 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=-0.514, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FIyGjPuGLdhZ for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Mon, 6 Jul 2009 11:15:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D68865326 for <gentoo-user@gentoo.org>; Mon, 6 Jul 2009 11:15:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1MNmAQ-0001bN-RN for gentoo-user@gentoo.org; Mon, 06 Jul 2009 11:15:26 +0000 Received: from adsl-69-234-181-187.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net ([69.234.181.187]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for <gentoo-user@gentoo.org>; Mon, 06 Jul 2009 11:15:26 +0000 Received: from w41ter by adsl-69-234-181-187.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for <gentoo-user@gentoo.org>; Mon, 06 Jul 2009 11:15:26 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org From: walt <w41ter@gmail.com> Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: Xorg confusion and no glxinfo Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 04:16:38 -0700 Message-ID: <h2smc4$r7c$1@ger.gmane.org> References: <200907061129.49337.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-user+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-user.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: adsl-69-234-181-187.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.1pre) Gecko/20090706 Shredder/3.0b3pre In-Reply-To: <200907061129.49337.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> Sender: news <news@ger.gmane.org> X-Archives-Salt: 07542cbc-04f6-4400-abee-bb02a0f32384 X-Archives-Hash: f78ad35558041d9306d9e84f752a5826 On 07/06/2009 03:29 AM, Mick wrote: > Hi All, > > I cleared out some xorg related packages at some point because my machine will > not shutdown without a kernel oops when it is trying to unload the radeon > driver. Hm. There is no reason to unload any driver or module just to shut down. Are you sure that's the reason for the oops? > It now seems I can no longer find glxgears/info. What have I > removed that I shouldn't have? glxgears is part of mesa-progs. > I remember unmerging xorg-x11 (there was advice in this list that this is not > needed when using Fluxbox or other lightweight window managers). That's a meta-package, which just pulls in a bunch of other packages. Meta- packages are never needed, they're just for your convenience. > When I moved to x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.3-r* I also unmerged > x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati. I recall concluding at the time that the new > xorg-server did not need such an external driver - is that right? No, xorg-server will always need a specific driver for a specific video card, it's just a matter of figuring out which one your card needs. OTOH most cards will work at a very basic level with just the vesa driver -- but that's most likely not what you want. > I have set radeon as the video card in my /etc/make.conf, but Xorg.0.log shows > ati_drv.so - should it be so? > # less /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep driver > X.Org XInput driver : 2.1 > (==) Matched ati for the autoconfigured driver > New driver is "ati" > (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//ati_drv.so > (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//radeon_drv.so > (II) AIGLX: enabled GLX_texture_from_pixmap with driver support > > # lsmod | grep radeon > radeon 145696 2 > drm 141892 3 radeon I don't know enough about ati products to answer. The xorg-server is pretty good at picking the right driver by itself. If you type "X -logverbose" at a command prompt and look at the X logfile you may see that the server has loaded multiple drivers and then unloads the ones it doesn't need -- strange behavior but that's the way it's designed, apparently.