From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1ML5FR-0002Ir-R5 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 01:01:30 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A255DE05BE; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 01:01:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64270E05BE for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 01:01:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03BA964EFB for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 01:01:28 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at gentoo.org X-Spam-Score: -4.145 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.145 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=-0.546, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pp7gdLaEfz-n for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 01:01:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9189564E9F for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 01:01:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1ML5FC-0000MJ-2G for gentoo-user@gentoo.org; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 01:01:14 +0000 Received: from adsl-69-234-218-93.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net ([69.234.218.93]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 01:01:14 +0000 Received: from w41ter by adsl-69-234-218-93.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 01:01:14 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org From: walt Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: [WAY OT] GUI programming for Linux (and Windows possibly) Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 18:02:21 -0700 Message-ID: References: <5bdc1c8b0906280934j524686d7ic25fb0ce352aacec@mail.gmail.com> <4A47A3BB.3060005@coolmail.se> <5bdc1c8b0906281016w32a3af9xf68adfaa47ab9e64@mail.gmail.com> <5bdc1c8b0906281750n78879a8w5dd95df6fc22e20e@mail.gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: adsl-69-234-218-93.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1pre) Gecko/20090628 Shredder/3.0b3pre In-Reply-To: <5bdc1c8b0906281750n78879a8w5dd95df6fc22e20e@mail.gmail.com> Sender: news X-Archives-Salt: 238a20b1-5d12-485b-9541-4b4f31d59a56 X-Archives-Hash: a28eda0d452ff13115d313102450f4dc On 06/28/2009 05:50 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: > On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 5:12 PM, walt wrote: >> On 06/28/2009 10:16 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: >>> >>> On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 10:09 AM, pk wrote: >> >>>> Why Windows? I'm merely curious, not trying to criticize... >> >>> No offense taken. All the trading is done on the Windows platform >>> using proprietary trading platform apps. All the datafiles are >>> therefore sitting in Windows and it just seems easier... >> >> So true, and that's exactly where M$ wants us. I need to use a >> couple of M$-specific apps for the same reason, and much to my >> joy they both run very well on recent versions of wine. >> >> I first tried wine years ago when it was running only 16-bit >> windows apps and I gave it up as nothing more than a toy -- but >> things have *really* changed since then! >> >> Wine is a toy no longer, it's a powerful tool and I'd urge you >> to play with it at for a week or two to see what it can do. >> >> They have an apps database that lists popular windows programs >> that are known to run under wine (or not) and what you need to do >> to get them working. >> >> http://appdb.winehq.org/ >> >> I don't see Trade Station listed there but you could be the first >> one to get it working :-) > > I used to be an app maintainer for wine. I know about it and support > it but no longer us it. I tried TS maybe a year ago. It wouldn't even > install much less run. There's no good way for Wine developers to > debug the problems as it required a funded account for anyone to run > it. > > Sorry, but I'd never risk REAL money trading a Windows app in like TS > in Wine, vmware, xen or anything else that the app wasn't specifically > written for. The very last thing I wanted to do with this thread is > create some sort of religious war. It's not my intent. I do however > STRONGLY support your right to become a full-time, fully automated > trader trading every day with your own money like I have. Then you'll > have the right to decide what to do with your money for real as > opposed to making suggestions about what I do with mine. > > Yes, M$ wants us there, and you can go check the TS forums (or maybe > you can't if you don't have a trading account - I don't remember) to > find the 50 times I've asked TS to port their platform to any distro, > any revision of Linux. The number of people responding in the positive > is large, but TS has no visible intention of do it so I'm locked in. > > Please, let's drop the M$ stuff from this discussion. R will like work > out nicely for me. I can run the trading on windows, because it's the > only practical solution, but I can share a drive over the network and > use R on Gentoo reading those files. Please don't assume that because > I use Windows that I prefer it. FAR FROM IT! > > With best regards, > Mark > >