From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MJGSQ-0004oi-TV for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 00:35:23 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2B215E07F2; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 00:35:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A238E07F2 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 00:35:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE86766A62 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 00:35:20 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at gentoo.org X-Spam-Score: -3.522 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.522 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=0.077, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id E46b4O7KzJck for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 00:35:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A321966A9A for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 00:35:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from root by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1MJGSB-0006CU-FB for gentoo-user@gentoo.org; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 00:35:07 +0000 Received: from athedsl-370776.home.otenet.gr ([79.131.0.86]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 00:35:02 +0000 Received: from realnc by athedsl-370776.home.otenet.gr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 00:35:02 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org From: Nikos Chantziaras Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server-1.5 update/old kernel+old fglrx Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 03:33:33 +0300 Organization: Lucas Barks Message-ID: References: <5bdc1c8b0906231620i2aa5204u28f6e181183fcc96@mail.gmail.com> <5bdc1c8b0906231640o792ce292t827bf0935177c0e0@mail.gmail.com> <5bdc1c8b0906231653p550bc483nfd2cda8bad52b4c3@mail.gmail.com> <5bdc1c8b0906231706s3c140069rdbb9822e9b29699f@mail.gmail.com> <5bdc1c8b0906231727v5c500a76x864c6a54f43bdf19@mail.gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: athedsl-370776.home.otenet.gr User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1b3pre) Gecko/20090622 Thunderbird/3.0b2 In-Reply-To: <5bdc1c8b0906231727v5c500a76x864c6a54f43bdf19@mail.gmail.com> Sender: news X-Archives-Salt: 38e06690-2c39-4c17-b43e-9e345bd616e4 X-Archives-Hash: 2abd6fab12a924cea1c9618af797cef7 On 06/24/2009 03:27 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: > Gentoo is for me. Gentoo is the only distro I run and the only one > I've run for at least 6 years. Gentoo has run on THIS VERY MACHINE for > over 4 years and it is the ONLY distro that has EVER run on this > machine. Today I run eix-sync and emerge xorg-x11 and the machine > breaks and I cannot go back. It is not my choice that Gentoo > maintainers decided to drop something from portage required to make > this machine run and not give me a way to get it back. Portage chose > to erase files on MY machine - files that are required to make the > machine work. Gentoo package maintainers decided to obsolete my > machine, not me. You should have taken a backup of /usr/portage and created binary packages using "quickpgk" before the update. Portage can't contain every ancient version of every package out there. It would grow to infinity. Old stuff has to go. That's the very nature of Gentoo's "rolling release" nature (or on other words, its lack of a "stable" notion.) Anyway, see my other post, maybe you can go on with the update and have it working in the end. > I'm sure there's some way to get things back working again but I don't > know what they are. The rule is simple. If a fresh installation of Gentoo wouldn't work, you're out of luck. Gentoo lacks releases. Either you change hardware or distribution.