From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <gentoo-user+bounces-96729-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org>) id 1MFa6T-00020b-P5 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 13 Jun 2009 20:45:30 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A4143E02EA; Sat, 13 Jun 2009 20:45:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A727E02EA for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Sat, 13 Jun 2009 20:45:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C322666C1 for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Sat, 13 Jun 2009 20:45:28 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at gentoo.org X-Spam-Score: -4.16 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.16 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=-0.561, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1sescOrHoQL3 for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Sat, 13 Jun 2009 20:45:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 380A865856 for <gentoo-user@gentoo.org>; Sat, 13 Jun 2009 20:45:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1MFa6B-00030U-Bv for gentoo-user@gentoo.org; Sat, 13 Jun 2009 20:45:11 +0000 Received: from adsl-69-234-202-135.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net ([69.234.202.135]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for <gentoo-user@gentoo.org>; Sat, 13 Jun 2009 20:45:11 +0000 Received: from w41ter by adsl-69-234-202-135.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for <gentoo-user@gentoo.org>; Sat, 13 Jun 2009 20:45:11 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org From: walt <w41ter@gmail.com> Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: Considering launching into Gentoo Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 13:44:59 -0700 Message-ID: <h1134b$poa$1@ger.gmane.org> References: <4A33A362.7070907@gmail.com> <200906131731.31867.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-user+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-user.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: adsl-69-234-202-135.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net User-Agent: Thunderbird/3.0a2pre (X11; 2009061304) In-Reply-To: <200906131731.31867.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> Sender: news <news@ger.gmane.org> X-Archives-Salt: e60c3016-8f7b-4b65-9c62-5dbbe2e71d14 X-Archives-Hash: b535b7fea6afe6ed0ded10b4672f44a3 Alan McKinnon wrote: > ...As a Debian user, it is normally > safe to assume you can, in fact, read :-) Ah, maybe that explains why I despise their package manager. When I was a Debian user I figured that the most basic of utilities should be easy to use -- and I'm only half joking. Just for fun I tried Ubuntu recently since it's been so popular the last few years. They built their system on top of a Debian base, including my nemesis, the Debian package management system :o( The Synaptics GUI front end for their package manager is a great deal easier than the original back end, true, but the basic bad design of the back end still glares through the eye candy. (Just my opinion.) I like gentoo's portage system so-o-o-o much better!