[gentoo-user] Official Gentoo MythTV Install Guide: never installs mythtv

[gentoo-user] Official Gentoo MythTV Install Guide: never installs mythtv

[Grant Edwards]

I'm about to have a go at replacing my dedicated Knoppmyth
FE/BE box with a backend on my "general purpose" Gentoo desktop
and a dedicated diskless frontend on an Intel Mac Mini.

Towards that end I'm looking at the "Official Gentoo MythTV
Install Guide" at 

  http://dev.gentoo.org/~cardoe/mythtv/

I don't see anywhere in the process that mythtv is actually
installed.

Am I missing something?

Is that document "no longer operative"?  If so, it's
unfortunate that it's the first hit returned by Google for the
query gentoo http://www.google.com/search?q=gentoo+mythtv

[I think most of us great unwashed would presume a document
found on gentoo.org entitled the "official install guide" would
in fact be the official install guide...]

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[gentoo-user] Re: Official Gentoo MythTV Install Guide: never installs mythtv

[Grant Edwards]

On 2009-06-12, Grant Edwards <grante@visi.com> wrote:
> I'm about to have a go at replacing my dedicated Knoppmyth
> FE/BE box with a backend on my "general purpose" Gentoo desktop
> and a dedicated diskless frontend on an Intel Mac Mini.
>
> Towards that end I'm looking at the "Official Gentoo MythTV
> Install Guide" at 
>
>   http://dev.gentoo.org/~cardoe/mythtv/
>
> I don't see anywhere in the process that mythtv is actually
> installed.

I just read through it again.  The only packages I see being
installed are ntp and opengl-update.

Something's missing...

-- 
Grant

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Official Gentoo MythTV Install Guide: never installs mythtv

[Mark Knecht]

On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 7:03 PM, Grant Edwards<grante@visi.com> wrote:
> On 2009-06-12, Grant Edwards <grante@visi.com> wrote:
>> I'm about to have a go at replacing my dedicated Knoppmyth
>> FE/BE box with a backend on my "general purpose" Gentoo desktop
>> and a dedicated diskless frontend on an Intel Mac Mini.
>>
>> Towards that end I'm looking at the "Official Gentoo MythTV
>> Install Guide" at
>>
>>   http://dev.gentoo.org/~cardoe/mythtv/
>>
>> I don't see anywhere in the process that mythtv is actually
>> installed.
>
> I just read through it again.  The only packages I see being
> installed are ntp and opengl-update.
>
> Something's missing...
>
> --
> Grant

That doc was last updated in 2005. It's woefully out of date.

Use the Gentoo specific info on the www.MythTV.org site and you'll do fine.

If you need help or jsut want to ask questions about flags or
operation write back.

good luck,,
Mark

[gentoo-user] Re: Official Gentoo MythTV Install Guide: never installs mythtv

[Grant Edwards]

On 2009-06-12, Mark Knecht <markknecht@gmail.com> wrote:

>>> I'm about to have a go at replacing my dedicated Knoppmyth
>>> FE/BE box with a backend on my "general purpose" Gentoo
>>> desktop and a dedicated diskless frontend on an Intel Mac
>>> Mini.
>>>
>>> Towards that end I'm looking at the "Official Gentoo MythTV
>>> Install Guide" at
>>>
>>>   http://dev.gentoo.org/~cardoe/mythtv/
>>>
>>> I don't see anywhere in the process that mythtv is actually
>>> installed.

> That doc was last updated in 2005. It's woefully out of date.

You're right -- I hadn't noticed the last modified date.
Unfortunately, the Gentoo wiki page on MythTv has a pointer to
that page right at the top.

      http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/MythTV

> Use the Gentoo specific info on the www.MythTV.org site and
> you'll do fine.

At the risk of seeming a bit dim... what Gentoo specific info?

The page at http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Linux_Distros#Gentoo has
4 links to Gentoo setup guides.  Three of them don't exist, and
the fourth is the previously mentioned "official" install guide
that hasn't been updated in 4 years and doesn't actually show
mythtv being installed.

> If you need help or jsut want to ask questions about flags or
> operation write back.

It's just that I would have sworn I'd seen a pretty complete
Gentoo MythTv HOWTO at some point, but I sure can't find it
now.  [I was primarily interested in hints for doing a
"backend-only" install.] Anyway, I was surprised there didn't
seem to be a HOWTO.  I've done some fairly obscure stuff on
Gentoo, and I think this is the first time I've wanted to do
something and haven't found a detail HOWTO document.

-- 
Grant

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Official Gentoo MythTV Install Guide: never installs mythtv

[Mark Knecht]

On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 8:14 PM, Grant Edwards<grante@visi.com> wrote:
> On 2009-06-12, Mark Knecht <markknecht@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>>> I'm about to have a go at replacing my dedicated Knoppmyth
>>>> FE/BE box with a backend on my "general purpose" Gentoo
>>>> desktop and a dedicated diskless frontend on an Intel Mac
>>>> Mini.
>>>>
>>>> Towards that end I'm looking at the "Official Gentoo MythTV
>>>> Install Guide" at
>>>>
>>>>   http://dev.gentoo.org/~cardoe/mythtv/
>>>>
>>>> I don't see anywhere in the process that mythtv is actually
>>>> installed.
>
>> That doc was last updated in 2005. It's woefully out of date.
>
> You're right -- I hadn't noticed the last modified date.
> Unfortunately, the Gentoo wiki page on MythTv has a pointer to
> that page right at the top.
>
>      http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/MythTV
>
>> Use the Gentoo specific info on the www.MythTV.org site and
>> you'll do fine.
>
> At the risk of seeming a bit dim... what Gentoo specific info?
>
> The page at http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Linux_Distros#Gentoo has
> 4 links to Gentoo setup guides.  Three of them don't exist, and
> the fourth is the previously mentioned "official" install guide
> that hasn't been updated in 4 years and doesn't actually show
> mythtv being installed.

That's the wiki, not the documentation.

http://www.mythtv.org/docs/

http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-5.html#ss5.5

then under

http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-6.html

<QUOTE>
Gentoo

After installing MySQL you need to initialize the database by running
mysql_install_db as root.

and later...

Gentoo

    $ su
    # mysql < /usr/share/mythtv/database/mc.sql

Anyway, if you go through these docs I think there's enough for you to
get running, although the specific USE flags you might want are
probably not well documented here.

>
>> If you need help or jsut want to ask questions about flags or
>> operation write back.
>
> It's just that I would have sworn I'd seen a pretty complete
> Gentoo MythTv HOWTO at some point, but I sure can't find it
> now.  [I was primarily interested in hints for doing a
> "backend-only" install.] Anyway, I was surprised there didn't
> seem to be a HOWTO.  I've done some fairly obscure stuff on
> Gentoo, and I think this is the first time I've wanted to do
> something and haven't found a detail HOWTO document.

I think that was all lost when the Gentoo WIki got wiped out. I
remember what you are talking about but I don't remember seeing it in
the last year.

Hope this helps,
Mark

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Official Gentoo MythTV Install Guide: never installs mythtv

[Mike Kazantsev]

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On Thu, 11 Jun 2009 21:35:36 -0700
Mark Knecht <markknecht@gmail.com> wrote:

> >> If you need help or jsut want to ask questions about flags or
> >> operation write back.
> >
> > It's just that I would have sworn I'd seen a pretty complete
> > Gentoo MythTv HOWTO at some point, but I sure can't find it
> > now.  [I was primarily interested in hints for doing a
> > "backend-only" install.] Anyway, I was surprised there didn't
> > seem to be a HOWTO.  I've done some fairly obscure stuff on
> > Gentoo, and I think this is the first time I've wanted to do
> > something and haven't found a detail HOWTO document.
> 
> I think that was all lost when the Gentoo WIki got wiped out. I
> remember what you are talking about but I don't remember seeing it in
> the last year.

But old gentoo-wiki pages were recovered from google cache and
now reside at gentoo-wiki.info.

  http://www.gentoo-wiki.info/HOWTO_Setup_MythTV
  http://www.gentoo-wiki.info/Category:MythTV

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[gentoo-user] Re: Official Gentoo MythTV Install Guide: never installs mythtv

[Grant Edwards]

On 2009-06-12, Mike Kazantsev <mk.fraggod@gmail.com> wrote:

> But old gentoo-wiki pages were recovered from google cache and
> now reside at gentoo-wiki.info.
>
>   http://www.gentoo-wiki.info/HOWTO_Setup_MythTV
>   http://www.gentoo-wiki.info/Category:MythTV

Bingo!

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[gentoo-user] Re: Official Gentoo MythTV Install Guide: never installs mythtv

[Grant Edwards]

On 2009-06-12, Mark Knecht <markknecht@gmail.com> wrote:

>>> Use the Gentoo specific info on the www.MythTV.org site and
>>> you'll do fine.
>>
>> At the risk of seeming a bit dim... what Gentoo specific info?
>>
>> The page at http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Linux_Distros#Gentoo has
>> 4 links to Gentoo setup guides. ??Three of them don't exist, and
>> the fourth is the previously mentioned "official" install guide
>> that hasn't been updated in 4 years and doesn't actually show
>> mythtv being installed.
>
> That's the wiki, not the documentation.

OK, thanks.

> I think that was all lost when the Gentoo WIki got wiped out.

That's what I was afraid of.  I thought I'd seen it more
recently than that, but I guess not.

> I remember what you are talking about but I don't remember
> seeing it in the last year.

Thanks again.

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