From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MBwPT-0003mA-Jx for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 03 Jun 2009 19:46:05 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3996CE04BE; Wed, 3 Jun 2009 19:46:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B425E04BE for ; Wed, 3 Jun 2009 19:46:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B351365E9D for ; Wed, 3 Jun 2009 19:46:00 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at gentoo.org X-Spam-Score: -3.499 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.499 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=0.100, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pZJKAPNAI2gI for ; Wed, 3 Jun 2009 19:45:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C85FC65DDA for ; Wed, 3 Jun 2009 19:45:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1MBwPE-0006JE-QO for gentoo-user@gentoo.org; Wed, 03 Jun 2009 19:45:48 +0000 Received: from athedsl-374955.home.otenet.gr ([79.131.16.169]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 03 Jun 2009 19:45:48 +0000 Received: from realnc by athedsl-374955.home.otenet.gr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 03 Jun 2009 19:45:48 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org From: Nikos Chantziaras Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: Verification of audio CD copy? Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2009 22:45:57 +0300 Organization: Lucas Barks Message-ID: References: <5bdc1c8b0906021803s357a9dfclb3f9a9b2cf36b9d8@mail.gmail.com> <58965d8a0906021942v4fb276e0od1d3c10c33ec96a0@mail.gmail.com> <5bdc1c8b0906021948v78682990o350549ee74fd624c@mail.gmail.com> <4A25F2F1.7000401@gmail.com> <4a263c54.q9xglPOI98Mxu9Yz%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: athedsl-374955.home.otenet.gr User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090429) In-Reply-To: <4a263c54.q9xglPOI98Mxu9Yz%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> Sender: news X-Archives-Salt: 712b167b-c800-400e-8c1d-a86b157f50eb X-Archives-Hash: 51c703f8c2dd39327cb782633866ea00 Joerg Schilling wrote: > Dale wrote: > >> Could it be some copy protection thing that is new maybe? Something k3b >> can't quite copy. > > There is no copy protection system for audio CDs. There is, unfortunately. An example is "Cactus Data Shield". The bad thing is that it even breaks the standard, resulting in the copy protected audio CD not playing back in some players (PC CD-ROMs for example or CD players with MP3 support). Such CDs are actually required to refrain from using the "CDDA" logo on their casing. Some even mention that they are copy protected. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copy_protection#Copy_protection_for_audio_CDs for more info. In any case, it's very difficult or even impossible to copy some of them with regular CD-ROM drives. Some require analog copying or using the digital-out connector of the drive.