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From: Grant Edwards <grante@visi.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: [gentoo-user]  Re: Gentoo's advantage: 'optimized for your         system' -- huh?
Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 14:25:07 +0000 (UTC)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <gmhh83$rbh$1@ger.gmane.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 20090206085543.49a51750@krikkit

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On 2009-02-06, Neil Bothwick <neil@digimed.co.uk> wrote:
> On Fri, 6 Feb 2009 08:17:46 +0100 (CET), Jesús Guerrero wrote:
>
>> Well, in that sense, ALL the man pages of for anything that's more
>> complext than ls will be horrible. There's no way to can shorten
>> it unless you take features off from bash. It's a very powerful
>> shell.
>> 
>> Same goes for my other example: fvwm.
>
> And for mplayer/mencoder. The problem is that man pages are
> single pages and therefore only suitable for fairly short
> documents. The alternative, as used by zsh, is to split the
> information into several man pages, then you never know which
> one to look at. procmail is a good example of how to do this
> badly, with procmailrc's documentation being split across
> three man pages.
>
> That's why info is a much better format for complex or
> multipurpose programs.

That's one opinion, but I think info very difficult to use.  I
much prefer a single page.  Stuff in info is always broken up
into pieces that are way too small.  Whatever organization
there is supposed to be in info is impossible to perceive while
you're looking at a page, and it's way to easy to end up in
documentation for something completely unrelated.

> You'd expect to find a list of contents, chapters and an index
> in a printed reference book, electronic documentation should
> be no different.

Perhaps, but I think info is an awful implementation.  A single
large man page is much better, and a single large html page
with links in it is far, far, better.

-- 
Grant Edwards                   grante             Yow! HELLO, everybody,
                                  at               I'm a HUMAN!!
                               visi.com            




  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-02-06 14:25 UTC|newest]

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2009-02-03 22:39 [gentoo-user] Gentoo's advantage: "optimized for your system" -- huh? Grant Edwards
2009-02-03 22:56 ` Grant
2009-02-03 23:02 ` Norberto Bensa
2009-02-07  9:00   ` Nicolas Sebrecht
2009-02-03 23:03 ` Saphirus Sage
2009-02-04  0:50   ` Dale
2009-02-03 23:06 ` Paul Hartman
2009-02-03 23:13   ` Constantine D. Kardaris
2009-02-04 10:09   ` [gentoo-user] Gentoo's advantage: 'optimized for your system' " Jesús Guerrero
2009-02-04 12:42     ` Sebastián Magrí
2009-02-04 13:19       ` [gentoo-user] " Nikos Chantziaras
2009-02-04 14:01         ` Alan McKinnon
2009-02-04 16:46           ` Neil Bothwick
2009-02-04 17:32         ` Jesús Guerrero
2009-02-04 17:48           ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-02-04 18:03             ` Jesús Guerrero
2009-02-04 20:24             ` Alan McKinnon
2009-02-04 20:37               ` Sebastián Magrí
2009-02-04 21:57                 ` Paul Hartman
2009-02-05  6:07                 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-02-05  7:28                   ` Jesús Guerrero
2009-02-05  7:37                     ` Alan McKinnon
2009-02-05  7:57                       ` Dale
2009-02-05  8:05                         ` Alan McKinnon
2009-02-05  8:26                           ` Dale
2009-02-05 10:59                             ` Momesso Andrea
2009-02-05  8:13                       ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-02-05  8:56                         ` Neil Bothwick
2009-02-05 15:18                           ` Grant Edwards
2009-02-05 11:01                         ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2009-02-05 11:15                           ` Cocoy Dayao
2009-02-05 13:53                             ` Saphirus Sage
2009-02-05 19:51                               ` Jesús Guerrero
2009-02-05 20:25                                 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-02-05 21:01                                   ` Jesús Guerrero
2009-02-05 21:08                                     ` Jesús Guerrero
2009-02-05 21:29                                   ` Neil Bothwick
2009-02-05 11:36                           ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-02-05 12:01                             ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2009-02-05 13:48                               ` Saphirus Sage
2009-02-05 14:04                                 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2009-02-05 19:00                               ` Mike Edenfield
2009-02-05 19:10                                 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2009-02-05 19:31                                   ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-02-05 19:36                                     ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2009-02-05 19:43                                       ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-02-05 19:45                                         ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2009-02-05 20:18                                           ` Mark Knecht
2009-02-05 20:34                                             ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2009-02-05 19:47                                         ` Saphirus Sage
2009-02-05 20:16                                           ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-02-05 19:49                                         ` Joshua D Doll
2009-02-05 20:20                                           ` Mark Knecht
2009-02-05 20:32                                             ` Paul Hartman
2009-02-05 20:38                                               ` Joshua D Doll
2009-02-05 22:16                                                 ` Paul Hartman
2009-02-05 22:30                                                   ` Joshua D Doll
2009-02-05 20:57                                               ` Mark Knecht
2009-02-05 21:44                                                 ` Joshua D Doll
2009-02-05 22:57                                                   ` Dale
2009-02-05 23:03                                                     ` Joshua D Doll
2009-02-05 23:03                                                       ` Saphirus Sage
2009-02-05 23:12                                                         ` Joshua D Doll
2009-02-06  0:54                                                           ` Dale
2009-02-06  0:58                                                             ` Saphirus Sage
2009-02-06  2:45                                                           ` Stroller
2009-02-06  5:48                                                             ` Alan McKinnon
2009-02-06  3:03                                                         ` Stroller
2009-02-06  3:08                                                           ` Jesús Guerrero
2009-02-06  4:40                                                             ` Stroller
2009-02-06  5:03                                                               ` Jesús Guerrero
2009-02-06  6:57                                                                 ` Stroller
2009-02-06  7:17                                                                   ` Jesús Guerrero
2009-02-06  8:55                                                                     ` Neil Bothwick
2009-02-06 12:36                                                                       ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2009-02-06 12:58                                                                         ` Alan McKinnon
2009-02-06 13:04                                                                           ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2009-02-06 13:29                                                                           ` Neil Bothwick
2009-02-06 13:49                                                                             ` Alan McKinnon
2009-02-06 14:27                                                                               ` Grant Edwards
2009-02-06 16:06                                                                                 ` Saphirus Sage
2009-02-06 16:41                                                                                   ` Grant Edwards
2009-02-06 16:40                                                                                     ` Saphirus Sage
2009-02-06 16:51                                                                                       ` Grant Edwards
2009-02-06 21:00                                                                                 ` Harry Putnam
2009-02-06 21:08                                                                                   ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2009-02-06 21:30                                                                                     ` Harry Putnam
2009-02-06 21:37                                                                                       ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2009-02-06 23:28                                                                                         ` Harry Putnam
2009-02-07  7:53                                                                                           ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2009-02-07 18:55                                                                                             ` Harry Putnam
2009-02-07  9:57                                                                                     ` Neil Bothwick
2009-02-07 18:13                                                                                   ` Jesús Guerrero
2009-02-07 18:40                                                                                     ` Harry Putnam
2009-02-07 19:08                                                                                       ` Jesús Guerrero
2009-02-08  0:42                                                                                         ` Harry Putnam
2009-02-08  0:57                                                                                           ` Jesús Guerrero
2009-02-08 13:32                                                                                             ` Neil Bothwick
2009-02-08 14:41                                                                                               ` Graham Murray
2009-02-08 14:59                                                                                                 ` Grant Edwards
2009-02-06 14:19                                                                             ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2009-02-06 15:36                                                                             ` Stroller
2009-02-06 14:25                                                                         ` Grant Edwards
2009-02-06 14:25                                                                       ` Grant Edwards [this message]
2009-02-07  9:52                                                                         ` Neil Bothwick
2009-02-07 11:48                                                                           ` Saphirus Sage
2009-02-07 12:11                                                                             ` Neil Bothwick
2009-02-06  5:46                                                               ` Alan McKinnon
2009-02-06  8:57                                                                 ` Neil Bothwick
2009-02-06  9:11                                                                   ` Alan McKinnon
2009-02-06  9:23                                                                     ` Neil Bothwick
2009-02-05 22:53                                             ` Dale
2009-02-06  7:41                                           ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-02-05 22:10                                         ` momesso.andrea
2009-02-05 20:03                                 ` Jesús Guerrero
2009-02-05 20:12                                   ` Neil Bothwick
2009-02-13 10:04                                     ` Joost Roeleveld
2009-02-06  9:02                                 ` Christopher Walters
2009-02-06 12:41                                   ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2009-02-06 19:58                                     ` Christopher Walters
2009-02-06 20:03                                       ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2009-02-05 12:21                             ` Dirk Uys
2009-02-05 15:23                               ` Grant Edwards
2009-02-05 15:32                                 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2009-02-05 19:56                                 ` Jesús Guerrero
2009-02-05 12:45                             ` Neil Bothwick
2009-02-05 19:44                             ` Jesús Guerrero
2009-02-05  7:48                     ` Dale
2009-02-05  8:11                     ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-02-05  8:50                       ` Jesús Guerrero
2009-02-06 21:27                       ` Sebastian Günther
2009-02-06 21:36                         ` Dirk Heinrichs
2009-02-06 21:38                           ` Harry Putnam
2009-02-06 21:48                             ` Mark Knecht
2009-02-06 22:42                             ` Roy Wright
2009-02-06 22:55                               ` Dale
2009-02-07  7:17                                 ` Sebastian Günther
2009-02-07  7:43                                   ` Dale
2009-02-07  9:47                                   ` Neil Bothwick
2009-02-07 18:27                                 ` Jesús Guerrero
2009-02-07 18:37                                   ` Dale
2009-02-07 19:02                                     ` Jesús Guerrero
2009-02-07 19:09                                       ` Dale
2009-02-07 19:23                                         ` Jesús Guerrero
2009-02-07 13:53                         ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-02-07 16:20                           ` Neil Bothwick
2009-02-07 17:23                             ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-02-07 17:29                               ` James Homuth
2009-02-07 19:43                                 ` Sebastian Günther
2009-02-07 21:42                                   ` Neil Bothwick
2009-02-08  8:54                                     ` Sebastian Günther
2009-02-08 15:40                                       ` Neil Bothwick
2009-02-07 19:38                               ` Sebastian Günther
2009-02-07 17:28                             ` Dale
2009-02-05  7:41                   ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2009-02-05  8:29                     ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-02-05  8:46                       ` Joshua Murphy
2009-02-05 11:04                       ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2009-02-05 20:36                         ` kashani
2009-02-03 23:08 ` [gentoo-user] Gentoo's advantage: "optimized for your system" " Yannick Mortier
2009-02-03 23:10 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2009-02-03 23:20 ` kashani
2009-02-03 23:48 ` [gentoo-user] " Nikos Chantziaras
2009-02-04  6:58   ` Alan McKinnon
2009-02-04  7:27     ` Christopher Walters
2009-02-04  7:39       ` Alan McKinnon
2009-02-04 10:32         ` [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo's advantage: 'optimized for your system' " Jesús Guerrero
2009-02-04 15:25           ` Grant Edwards
2009-02-04 15:41             ` Neil Bothwick
2009-02-04 16:19               ` Grant Edwards
2009-02-04 16:48                 ` Neil Bothwick
2009-02-04 17:54                 ` Jesús Guerrero
2009-02-04 17:38             ` Jesús Guerrero
2009-02-04 13:03     ` [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo's advantage: "optimized for your system" " Momesso Andrea
2009-02-04 13:15       ` Sebastián Magrí
2009-02-04 13:31         ` Momesso Andrea
2009-02-04 13:56           ` Sebastián Magrí
2009-02-04 15:39             ` [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo's advantage: "optimized for yoursystem" " Prado, Renato (R.P.)
2009-02-04 15:45               ` Yannick Mortier
     [not found]               ` <2F1868733128B647A5383526F5DF600401A91E25@VNAMBV03.vistcorp.ad.visteon .com>
2009-02-04 17:43                 ` [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo's advantage: 'optimized for yoursystem' " Jesús Guerrero
2009-02-04 17:55                   ` Prado, Renato (R.P.)
2009-02-04 13:59           ` [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo's advantage: "optimized for your system" " Alan McKinnon
2009-02-04 16:55             ` Momesso Andrea
2009-02-04 20:40               ` Alan McKinnon
2009-02-04 14:06           ` Neil Bothwick
2009-02-04 16:33       ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2009-02-05 10:12   ` Steven Lembark
2009-02-05 10:22     ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-02-05 12:48       ` Neil Bothwick
2009-02-05 10:47     ` Dirk Uys
2009-02-05 15:26     ` Grant Edwards
2009-02-05 15:52       ` Neil Bothwick
2009-02-04  3:38 ` James
2009-02-04  6:17   ` Grant Edwards
2009-02-04  6:22     ` Paul Hartman
2009-02-04 15:23       ` Grant Edwards
2009-02-04 16:07       ` James
2009-02-04 16:19         ` Hazen Valliant-Saunders
2009-02-04 16:52           ` James
2009-02-04 16:20         ` Grant Edwards
2009-02-04 19:27         ` Paul Hartman
2009-02-04 10:26     ` [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo's advantage: 'optimized for your system' " Jesús Guerrero
2009-02-04  9:58 ` [gentoo-user] " Jesús Guerrero
2009-02-04 10:08   ` [gentoo-user] " Nikos Chantziaras
2009-02-04 10:34     ` Jesús Guerrero
2009-02-04 18:43 ` [gentoo-user] Gentoo's advantage: "optimized for your system" " pk
2009-02-05 10:08 ` Steven Lembark
2009-02-05 14:43 ` Stroller
2009-02-05 18:18   ` [gentoo-user] " Nikos Chantziaras
2009-02-05 18:50     ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2009-02-05 18:52     ` Mark Knecht

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