From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LVAmy-0006cn-BG for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 20:25:32 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6E9CCE0420; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 20:25:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A5DBE0420 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 20:25:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 946FD64991 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 20:25:13 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at gentoo.org X-Spam-Score: -3.393 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.393 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=0.206, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dHKSIHLM1UXS for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 20:25:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6B17649A3 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 20:25:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1LVAmU-0005T7-En for gentoo-user@gentoo.org; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 20:25:02 +0000 Received: from athedsl-106328.home.otenet.gr ([87.203.54.246]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 20:25:02 +0000 Received: from realnc by athedsl-106328.home.otenet.gr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 20:25:02 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org From: Nikos Chantziaras Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo's advantage: 'optimized for your system' -- huh? Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2009 22:25:11 +0200 Organization: Lucas Barks Message-ID: References: <200902050937.25810.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> <200902051201.38316.volkerarmin@googlemail.com> <89FCBD54-D9F9-41B3-8723-8221A2DE2DC6@gmail.com> <498AEF56.3060308@gmail.com> <8ecc09e6e2dddffbda81ccc8731a0947.squirrel@jesgue.homelinux.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: athedsl-106328.home.otenet.gr User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090203) In-Reply-To: <8ecc09e6e2dddffbda81ccc8731a0947.squirrel@jesgue.homelinux.org> Sender: news Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 9c14dfbf-55c5-4004-80d6-942fe8f3f5fa X-Archives-Hash: d0aa755c8ce1c7e3fc20f8390e2b676d Jes=FAs Guerrero wrote: > It's not "The community vs. you", you are part of the community > since the very moment you start using linux. Most people don't want to be some part of some weird community. They=20 just want to use a computer. If they were looking for friends, they=20 might try the local sports club. Linux has reached a point where it tries to appeal to users. You don't=20 ask them anymore to go fix the problems. You have to fix them yourself.=20 I believe any distro that doesn't adopt a development model where user=20 support and QA are important, is going to die at some point. Linux=20 doesn't seem to have gathered new users since ages; 2003 maybe? Or=20 2004? No visible growth since then. With no new users, and most users=20 converting to Ubuntu and openSUSE, there's simply not enough users left=20 to keep other distros alive.