From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LUlrX-0001em-5S for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 17:48:35 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4399EE05E6; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 17:48:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2007FE05E6 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 17:48:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F0D164EA9 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 17:48:33 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at gentoo.org X-Spam-Score: -3.45 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.45 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=0.149, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SLoMiJm3SqDf for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 17:48:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42A6564EAD for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 17:48:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1LUlrK-0004Wl-Cu for gentoo-user@gentoo.org; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 17:48:22 +0000 Received: from athedsl-412040.home.otenet.gr ([79.131.161.134]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 17:48:22 +0000 Received: from realnc by athedsl-412040.home.otenet.gr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 17:48:22 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org From: Nikos Chantziaras Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo's advantage: 'optimized for your system' -- huh? Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 19:48:27 +0200 Organization: Lucas Barks Message-ID: References: <58965d8a0902031506u76e1028el43fcda05fe34d629@mail.gmail.com> <5030d26b8fcf9e92798db691a50d7379.squirrel@jesgue.homelinux.org> <1233751342.4596.8.camel@silversword> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: athedsl-412040.home.otenet.gr User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090203) In-Reply-To: Sender: news Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 3244b35d-14e7-41e2-ac91-90a4ddbb3cd5 X-Archives-Hash: 237f577c412dedba2c09ae31836aaaf7 Jes=FAs Guerrero wrote: > El Mie, 4 de Febrero de 2009, 14:19, Nikos Chantziaras escribi=F3: >> Sebasti=C3=A1n Magr=C3=AD wrote: >> >>> Also, Gentoo is a great school. If you want to learn how a Linux syst= em >>> works, and really want to learn about Unix systems, then Gentoo is t= he >>> best for you. >> I don't get that argument. I didn't learn how Linux or Unix works wit= h >> Gentoo. I didn't even find my prior knowledge of Unix and Linux of mu= ch >> use either. Typing "emerge package" and "dispatch-conf" doesn't offer= me >> much knowledge. It's as simple as Debian in this regard. >> >> If I wanted a "learn Unix" distro, I would be using Slackware :P >=20 > Gentoo forces you to use linux in the sense that you need to > do all the work by yourself to install it. What you describe is > just the regular update/install process, which is simple enough > as you said. It was very easy for me. The first I came in tough with Gentoo was with=20 the 2007 DVD. I booted, double clicked the installer icon, clicked=20 "next" a few times with checking some tickboxes too, and then emerged -e=20 system and world and the packages I need. After that I was asking myself where the difficulty lies many people=20 refer to when it comes to installing Gentoo. Seriously, I didn't learn anything. Maybe CLFAGS and USE flags.