From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LQtwJ-0005CB-R9 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:37:32 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4B2FBE0683; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:37:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C703E0683 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:37:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7428E64815 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:37:28 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at gentoo.org X-Spam-Score: -3.403 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.403 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=0.196, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uv5FBPb+lijS for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:37:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8706C64803 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:37:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1LQtw6-00023b-QZ for gentoo-user@gentoo.org; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:37:18 +0000 Received: from 67-220-10-117.usiwireless.com ([67.220.10.117]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:37:18 +0000 Received: from grante by 67-220-10-117.usiwireless.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:37:18 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org From: Grant Edwards Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: No /dev entries in recent stage3 snapshots? Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:37:08 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <20090121155655.466edba0@zaphod.digimed.co.uk> <200901230555.10400.volkerarmin@googlemail.com> <20090124232911.660b597b@krikkit> X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 67-220-10-117.usiwireless.com User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.1pl1 (Linux) Sender: news Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Archives-Salt: d9283345-84b9-4133-9715-0e11a2d1136d X-Archives-Hash: c5bec9b8a553f9ffb31f4fc510dd1544 On 2009-01-25, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2009-01-24, Neil Bothwick wrote: >> On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 05:55:10 +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: >> >>> I have a server running that hets that null/console missing >>> message every boot - and it does not hurt it at any way. >> >> A missing /dev/console stops the boot process here. It boots >> without /dev/null, but only after udev spews out a load of >> messages. > > Ah, not to worry: I've been assured in the gentoo forum thread > that the problems we see when the root filesystem doesn't have > proper /dev/null and /dev/console nodes aren't really > happening: > > Neither /dev/null nor /dev/console are needed at boot-time, > therefore their absence doesn't cause problems. For posterity's sake, one of the problems that wasn't happening was that my root partition always had to be recovered at startup -- it apparently wasn't getting properly unmounted during shutdown. After re-creating the root partition's /dev tree, that was cured. This leads one to suspect that the block device node for the root partition (/dev/hda3 in my case) is also required along with /dev/null and /dev/console for proper start-up and shut-down. -- Grant