From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LPgG6-0007mW-Hg for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2009 16:48:55 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 81F78E0420; Wed, 21 Jan 2009 16:48:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31A7FE0420 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2009 16:48:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B837B6490E for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2009 16:48:51 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at gentoo.org X-Spam-Score: -1.337 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.337 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=0.195, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO=2.067] Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 53Uu3qyyu3fj for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2009 16:48:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E90FF641EC for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2009 16:48:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1LPgFp-0004N2-PM for gentoo-user@gentoo.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2009 16:48:37 +0000 Received: from 64.251.14.41 ([64.251.14.41]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2009 16:48:37 +0000 Received: from grante by 64.251.14.41 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2009 16:48:37 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org From: Grant Edwards Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: No /dev entries in recent stage3 snapshots? Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 16:48:27 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1232524334.9583.13.camel@mymachine> <20090121155655.466edba0@zaphod.digimed.co.uk> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.251.14.41 User-Agent: slrn/pre0.9.9-102 (Linux) Sender: news X-Archives-Salt: 50491759-3e53-4b83-b78b-75d624fc9e13 X-Archives-Hash: 2da6e7eda7fa3a08b45dc49d167d98af On 2009-01-21, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 15:50:17 +0000, Nick Cunningham wrote: > >>> But, that doesn't really solve the problem, since after a >>> reboot the /dev directory will be empty again and you end up >>> with problems such as no console during startup. > >> IIRC thats because /dev should be populated on startup by udev so i >> would check that udev is installed and working properly, if you use >> openrc then this could be the cause as openrc now starts udev through >> normal scripts i think, sometimes on upgrade from baselayout 1 they may >> not be automatically added to the right runlevels. > > You still need /dev/console in the dev directory of the root > partition, along with /dev/null. Anything else is a waste of > disk space and inodes as the static /dev/devices are hidden as > soon as udev starts. If the tarball doesn't contain > /dev/console it is broken, but it is also broken if it > contains thousands of device entries. Then all the stage3 tarballs I've ever seen are broken. They either contain 5000+ entries, or nothing but these: drwxr-xr-x root/root 0 2009-01-13 21:20 ./dev/ -rw-r--r-- root/root 0 2009-01-13 21:20 ./dev/null lrwxrwxrwx root/root 0 2009-01-13 19:29 ./dev/MAKEDEV -> ../sbin/MAKEDEV -rw-r--r-- root/root 0 2009-01-13 19:29 ./dev/.keep drwxr-xr-x root/root 0 2009-01-13 19:29 ./dev/shm/ -rw-r--r-- root/root 0 2009-01-13 19:29 ./dev/shm/.keep drwxr-xr-x root/root 0 2009-01-13 19:29 ./dev/pts/ -rw-r--r-- root/root 0 2009-01-13 19:29 ./dev/pts/.keep What I do know is that using a stage3 with 5000+ entries allows you to install using either the normal or quick install instructions. Using one with just the above /dev entries causes problems either way -- more so if using the quick install instructions since there is no step where you mount udev to /mnt/gentoo/dev. -- Grant Edwards grante Yow! I'm sitting on my at SPEED QUEEN ... To me, visi.com it's ENJOYABLE ... I'm WARM ... I'm VIBRATORY ...