From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1L3LtJ-0001hZ-23 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 21 Nov 2008 02:37:05 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0B1DAE054A; Fri, 21 Nov 2008 02:37:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2E33E054A for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2008 02:37:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C060B64480 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2008 02:37:01 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at gentoo.org X-Spam-Score: -3.451 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.451 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=0.148, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SuPrkKo4EnQr for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2008 02:36:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA22D64478 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2008 02:36:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1L3Lt2-000526-D4 for gentoo-user@gentoo.org; Fri, 21 Nov 2008 02:36:48 +0000 Received: from athedsl-4376400.home.otenet.gr ([79.130.55.64]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2008 02:36:48 +0000 Received: from realnc by athedsl-4376400.home.otenet.gr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2008 02:36:48 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org From: Nikos Chantziaras Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: Random segfaults with kernel 2.6.27 Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 04:36:38 +0200 Message-ID: References: <350fc7cf0811201707y638930ddy4f2cc9bd4caabab7@mail.gmail.com> <350fc7cf0811201820t5fd8c470q2af0639d4c59e232@mail.gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: athedsl-4376400.home.otenet.gr User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081121) In-Reply-To: <350fc7cf0811201820t5fd8c470q2af0639d4c59e232@mail.gmail.com> Sender: news X-Archives-Salt: d2e5f2fd-5103-4b22-9cb1-91280a44c348 X-Archives-Hash: 3996ad9bb85df0b41c75b8786dadfdc5 Andrey Falko wrote: > On 11/20/08, *Nikos Chantziaras* > wrote: > > As it happens, upgrading to kernel 2.6.27 was not the only change; I > switched from xf86-video-radeonhd to the proprietary ATI Catalyst > drivers. Didn't think that this has anything to do with it though. > > > I have a hunch that this is the problem. Have you tried 2.6.27 without > the proprietary ATI drivers? I'll be running tests on this with various combinations (2.6.26/2.6.27/Catalyst/open source radeonhd) and see what happens. Re-emerging a bunch of stuff should do it. > This is the first thing I would suspect > because ATI drivers are not reputed --- or so I believe --- for being > the best quality software out there. They are reputed to be one of the most broken (from packaging, install scripts up to the actual binary blobs) ever produced ;P Too bad they're the *only* choice on modern cards. No 3D (or even accelerated 2D) support with any open source driver for HD4xxx series cards. It's one of those things you hate to the bone but can't do without due to AMD's refusal to open source them so we can fix them. > Either way, we need to eliminate as > many factors as possible and one of these factors is your ATI driver > change. I don't know much about Prime95, but if it won't simulate a > subtlety in your video drivers, especially how proprietary ATI drivers > will play with kernel 2.6.27. Yes, Prime doesn't touch the GPU. It stresses CPU, northbridge and RAM only.