[gentoo-user] Strange feature in eix

[gentoo-user] Strange feature in eix

[Jean Magnan de Bornier]

Hi all,

Using eix for some time (at least a year now), I discovered today
(eix-0.5.5) a very strange feature which and in less perfect world than
gentoo's might perhaps qualify as a bug.

If I type "eix <package>" and the package is unstable (or has unstable
versions) and appears as such in the gentoo database, I expect to see it
-for the unstable versions- in eix's output: the man page says so anyway;
but this happens only if I have not marked the package with "~x86" in *my*
/etc/portage/package.keywords file. If I mark the package (with "~x86")
eix tells me :

* app-editors/emacs-cvs 
     Available versions:  22.0.50-r1 22.0.50-r2 [M]23.0.0
     Installed:           22.0.50-r2
     Homepage:            http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs
     Description:         Emacs is the extensible, customizable,
     self-documenting real-time display editor.

and this is a *big lie* (works with any package apparently).

Or is it intended?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Strange feature in eix

[Boris Fersing]

2006/6/1, Jean Magnan de Bornier <jean@bornier.net>:
> Hi all,
>
> Using eix for some time (at least a year now), I discovered today
> (eix-0.5.5) a very strange feature which and in less perfect world than
> gentoo's might perhaps qualify as a bug.
>
> If I type "eix <package>" and the package is unstable (or has unstable
> versions) and appears as such in the gentoo database, I expect to see it
> -for the unstable versions- in eix's output: the man page says so anyway;
> but this happens only if I have not marked the package with "~x86" in *my*
> /etc/portage/package.keywords file. If I mark the package (with "~x86")
> eix tells me :
>
> * app-editors/emacs-cvs
>      Available versions:  22.0.50-r1 22.0.50-r2 [M]23.0.0
>      Installed:           22.0.50-r2
>      Homepage:            http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs
>      Description:         Emacs is the extensible, customizable,
>      self-documenting real-time display editor.
>
> and this is a *big lie* (works with any package apparently).
>
> Or is it intended?

Hi,

add LOCAL_PORTAGE_CONFIG=false in /etc/eixrc and try again ! (it's not
a bug, it's a feature ! :D)

Regards,

Boris.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Strange feature in eix

[Daniel da Veiga]

On 6/1/06, Jean Magnan de Bornier <jean@bornier.net> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Using eix for some time (at least a year now), I discovered today
> (eix-0.5.5) a very strange feature which and in less perfect world than
> gentoo's might perhaps qualify as a bug.
>
> If I type "eix <package>" and the package is unstable (or has unstable
> versions) and appears as such in the gentoo database, I expect to see it
> -for the unstable versions- in eix's output: the man page says so anyway;
> but this happens only if I have not marked the package with "~x86" in *my*
> /etc/portage/package.keywords file. If I mark the package (with "~x86")
> eix tells me :
>
> * app-editors/emacs-cvs
>      Available versions:  22.0.50-r1 22.0.50-r2 [M]23.0.0
>      Installed:           22.0.50-r2
>      Homepage:            http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs
>      Description:         Emacs is the extensible, customizable,
>      self-documenting real-time display editor.
>
> and this is a *big lie* (works with any package apparently).

Why is it a lie?! Have you not accepted that version explicity in your
own config file? So, isn't that version available? If you do an emerge
emacs-csv, wouldn't it pull out the keyworded package? Note that eix
uses the "available" word, not "stable" or anything like that. By
using "available", it is dynamic and can give results accourding to
your personal config.

I guess its more a feature, it predicts exactly what portage will
do... I didn't even knew it was using my personal config files, that
is awesome!

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Re: [gentoo-user] Strange feature in eix

[Jean Magnan de Bornier]

Le 01 juin à 21:06:33 "Daniel da Veiga" <danieldaveiga@gmail.com> écrit notamment:

| On 6/1/06, Jean Magnan de Bornier <jean@bornier.net> wrote:
| > Hi all,
| >
| > Using eix for some time (at least a year now), I discovered today
| > (eix-0.5.5) a very strange feature which and in less perfect world than
| > gentoo's might perhaps qualify as a bug.
| >
| > If I type "eix <package>" and the package is unstable (or has unstable
| > versions) and appears as such in the gentoo database, I expect to see it
| > -for the unstable versions- in eix's output: the man page says so anyway;
| > but this happens only if I have not marked the package with "~x86" in *my*
| > /etc/portage/package.keywords file. If I mark the package (with "~x86")
| > eix tells me :
| >
| > * app-editors/emacs-cvs
| >      Available versions:  22.0.50-r1 22.0.50-r2 [M]23.0.0
| >      Installed:           22.0.50-r2
| >      Homepage:            http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs
| >      Description:         Emacs is the extensible, customizable,
| >      self-documenting real-time display editor.
| >
| > and this is a *big lie* (works with any package apparently).
>
| Why is it a lie?! Have you not accepted that version explicity in your
| own config file? So, isn't that version available? If you do an emerge
| emacs-csv, wouldn't it pull out the keyworded package? Note that eix
| uses the "available" word, not "stable" or anything like that. By
| using "available", it is dynamic and can give results accourding to
| your personal config.

Sure ; you understand my using "lie" was a joke; but anyway I was
interpreting the term "masked" as a property of the package common to all
gentoo users, and it sounded (still does) strange to me; the man page:
......................... 
OUTPUT If you used gentoo for more than a week you're probably going to
       immediately recognize the format of the
       versions-strings. Nevertheless, we are going to explain them here.
    
[...]

       *3.4.3-r2
              That version is "masked by -* keyword".
       !3.3.3 This means the version is "masked by missing keyword".
       -0.8.14
              Masked by -ARCH.
       ~3.3.5.20050130
              The version would be "masked by ~keyword".
........................
 
as I personally do not mask packages, I could assume they were masked by
the external world... I should have read the man more carefully 
>
| I guess its more a feature, it predicts exactly what portage will
| do... I didn't even knew it was using my personal config files, that
| is awesome!

cheers,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Strange feature in eix

[Jean Magnan de Bornier]

Le 01 juin à 20:57:49 "Boris Fersing" <kernelsensei@gentoo.org> écrit notamment:

| 2006/6/1, Jean Magnan de Bornier <jean@bornier.net>:
| > Hi all,
| >
| > Using eix for some time (at least a year now), I discovered today
| > (eix-0.5.5) a very strange feature which and in less perfect world than
| > gentoo's might perhaps qualify as a bug.
| >
| > If I type "eix <package>" and the package is unstable (or has unstable
| > versions) and appears as such in the gentoo database, I expect to see it
| > -for the unstable versions- in eix's output: the man page says so anyway;
| > but this happens only if I have not marked the package with "~x86" in *my*
| > /etc/portage/package.keywords file. If I mark the package (with "~x86")
| > eix tells me :
| >
| > * app-editors/emacs-cvs
| >      Available versions:  22.0.50-r1 22.0.50-r2 [M]23.0.0
| >      Installed:           22.0.50-r2
| >      Homepage:            http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs
| >      Description:         Emacs is the extensible, customizable,
| >      self-documenting real-time display editor.
| >
| > and this is a *big lie* (works with any package apparently).
| >
| > Or is it intended?
>
| Hi,
>
| add LOCAL_PORTAGE_CONFIG=false in /etc/eixrc and try again ! (it's not
| a bug, it's a feature ! :D)
>
Thanks Boris for the explanation, I hadn't noticed; not sure this should be the
default feature though...

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Re: [gentoo-user] Strange feature in eix

[Bennet Gedan]

2006/6/1, Boris Fersing <kernelsensei@gentoo.org>:
> [...] LOCAL_PORTAGE_CONFIG=false in /etc/eixrc [...]

wohoo -- these are the things, wich make me happy being subscribed to
the gentoo-user mailing list.
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