From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1ISU1Q-0002aJ-3v for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 04 Sep 2007 08:44:32 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with SMTP id l848aHRP012863; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 08:36:17 GMT Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l848VK28006699 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 08:31:20 GMT Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CE6565CC6 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 08:31:19 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at gentoo.org X-Spam-Score: -0.129 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.129 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=-0.130, BAYES_50=0.001] Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5ukNivy2YtP3 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 08:31:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76BCE65CA1 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 08:31:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1ISToS-0001ZT-Vn for gentoo-user@gentoo.org; Tue, 04 Sep 2007 10:31:09 +0200 Received: from blueboticspc1.epfl.ch ([128.179.67.27]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 04 Sep 2007 10:31:08 +0200 Received: from remy.blank by blueboticspc1.epfl.ch with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 04 Sep 2007 10:31:08 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org From: Remy Blank Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: 500 meg / partition (including /boot) *WITHOUT USING LVM* Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 10:30:55 +0200 Message-ID: References: <20070902143233.GA9496@waltdnes.org> <20070902201502.4e612739@krikkit.digimed.co.uk> <200709022201.00036.dirk.heinrichs@online.de> <20070902232047.GA29278@waltdnes.org> <20070903005717.27f14f6b@krikkit.digimed.co.uk> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig943DB9D112213236B11A01DB" X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: blueboticspc1.epfl.ch User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.6) Gecko/20070728 Thunderbird/2.0.0.6 Mnenhy/0.7.5.0 In-Reply-To: <20070903005717.27f14f6b@krikkit.digimed.co.uk> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.3 Sender: news X-Archives-Salt: fff5fff7-7c8a-4f44-8f8c-079546fff6fd X-Archives-Hash: 190f3e91a8277965a517d7569fd802d9 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig943DB9D112213236B11A01DB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Neil Bothwick wrote: > Why do you make such a big deal of not using LVM? It achieves everythin= g > you want to, and more, without the compromises. There's one thing that has prevented me from ever using LVM: the need to have an initrd (or initramfs). From what I remember, this has always required manually copying some utilities like the LVM tools to the initrd (or writing a script that does it), and remembering to do it every time I update one of the tools, and not to forget copying all required libraries as well, and so on. OTOH, I have stopped looking at solutions that need an initrd quite some time ago, so things might be easier nowadays. How do you manage your initrd? Do you even need one? > And what happens with 500GB is no longer enough and you want to add mor= e > space. How do you resize your "partitions" to use space on the second > disk? Even though I have used resize2fs in the past, I have always thought that this tool was kind of a hack. Doesn't the resizing operation carry some risk? And if it goes wrong (e.g. a power outage), do you loose the complete content of the partition? And from what I remember, you can't resize a mounted ext3 partition, so you have to boot to a rescue CD, hope that all your LVM tools are there (they normally are, but what version?) and perform the resize operation there. But I'd love to be proven wrong on all the points above! This would certainly motivate me to look into LVM seriously this time. It really seems to be the right solution to the various problems I have seen with static partitions. -- Remy --------------enig943DB9D112213236B11A01DB Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) iD8DBQFG3RfECeNfIyhvXjIRArelAJ4lu8iHRyVzMs02QxUJTv/AAUfekQCdFs9w Gf/auSDfsA69JFl91FYcAaA= =F8Sv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig943DB9D112213236B11A01DB-- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list