From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: <gentoo-user+bounces-174759-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org> Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 19146139085 for <garchives@archives.gentoo.org>; Wed, 21 Dec 2016 22:31:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D01E321C13B; Wed, 21 Dec 2016 22:31:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yb0-x234.google.com (mail-yb0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c09::234]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6ABF021C054 for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Wed, 21 Dec 2016 22:31:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-yb0-x234.google.com with SMTP id w19so6959457ybb.2 for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Wed, 21 Dec 2016 14:31:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=uZ77G+fq+TSUEx0kQWxOYHVwOAY7nt5ky3aoZoREuOQ=; b=hVQV59tYdItvnJhB/VUl4e3ZxKifadW3cmzYn4gMYn1BHVHR9fcSCjqdI5f+3DHjTR IpzDX2JCocGt0uRox2QsqvXhSMpFKeAabg9JdeOUEACjI3DvXZ0HgcqAW2krJZV72NZH sAz0v0lFKEzzGN4THNBJ5TVKOYc57I1s/NCONaWhHThF8cimmEIkk+kvgGDjMfQo+3Qn mxNj1rb7B5Idfzx9x6FA6z+5ah14al1KaCd2IYYeAV7uC5DbsQZdN4F6LaOtHsJmargR +GVd/HSwB+j59ECEx+tW28rkT81+3TK99cvQRvn5eReDeOp0kg67YAa3Hk8oo/A0Wu+V FU3g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=uZ77G+fq+TSUEx0kQWxOYHVwOAY7nt5ky3aoZoREuOQ=; b=G6a45mfFpMMBtwFuUGCNiAMKEhQulgzr3gRyvGpx1zaT1+EH+v+/Wmo5LssoCKGiFq Q3TcH+UmVlq6uxTdeIoATSXaUByearzfIGaSimkbZ+iiOg15Tfm7zXXXGPQmQEHV0jk0 llzVuBd72JPLgQeW+s2jgwTJKloMdyAUgkkZfY+Ytsos78mLO0HKXqMvaNmXYoQIcE/h Vr7Qc9jC6myaOmaH5DPR9Fnc6g3hDwugjpxFO5wU/ovQemOAqzpHK0l4CVHb4ZuJO9cA EQYmNWXSWVPxRLrcZa6SYYkq6HKQH1PCRFTnMLWpfADhwxdxni8RPyU0ioi4FPpuOK26 ZJ8Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXLKLk8SsIGvySPlO1jNgsNZIk6CHPm2u2OVrx6TjZvmNgTTGDkW4OqDdkZKd2TQeA== X-Received: by 10.37.83.66 with SMTP id h63mr4318580ybb.139.1482359496619; Wed, 21 Dec 2016 14:31:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (adsl-65-0-95-121.jan.bellsouth.net. [65.0.95.121]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id q7sm4420505ywa.36.2016.12.21.14.31.35 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 21 Dec 2016 14:31:35 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org References: <20161015182743.GB4541@solfire> <20161216101951.GA29887@g0n.xdwgrp> <CAGfcS_k+toE5DiWMPZrbnFqnJwVuQQ73B-rAmYeGTeyE-WKzBQ@mail.gmail.com> <20161216131315.GA4052@g0n.xdwgrp> <CAGfcS_=LvKf+pbq1Pfs_RfNUB76yFHz3Dv-FK0ZdFAMt_mAbYQ@mail.gmail.com> <20161216165118.GA26704@g0n.xdwgrp> <CAGfcS_=UDb35V==i5Ma3K6pNBBSyU0Ecp7_u97ZOYSfj-AwnqQ@mail.gmail.com> <20161217055520.GA13608@waltdnes.org> <87pokn23ai.fsf@heimdali.yagibdah.de> <4c7138ac-cbd2-c60f-2a86-bb7e41e9d6fb@gmail.com> <87r353zmfs.fsf@heimdali.yagibdah.de> <97c3b37f-be37-391c-2e16-b232c793156d@gmail.com> <87oa07xnzt.fsf@heimdali.yagibdah.de> <64e6b9bf-ec3e-d11c-e832-70b58e67a9ce@gmail.com> <87tw9yutex.fsf@heimdali.yagibdah.de> <9ffca28e-194a-667c-bc26-f8d129fa0d9a@gmail.com> <87wpetrlea.fsf@heimdali.yagibdah.de> From: Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> Message-ID: <fb64d9e1-e40a-f886-0ee0-1c3b94538652@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2016 16:31:35 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:49.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/49.0 SeaMonkey/2.46 Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-user+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-user.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <87wpetrlea.fsf@heimdali.yagibdah.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 23c6943b-2181-48ec-a64c-77ff21a6b60c X-Archives-Hash: 28d55b2626e238d84e43e60b651118bc lee wrote: > Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> writes: > > I didn't go look at boards I had around here. I went to a major > computer supplier, newegg, and looked at what they had. Go back and > read again what I did and maybe read it more carefully. > > Might I also add, it's more than just me that has pointed out that you > are not correct on this. It's a few others as well. You ever stop to > think that what you observe is not the normal and certainly not the > default? If what you claim was even remotely accurate, newegg would > have had a lot larger number of boards with two ports on it. Thing is, > they didn't. Kai pointed out that the same is true in Europe. > Why would I assume that what someone else observes is a default? > Besides, I don't see what problem you're having with this. > > Then why would what you observe also be claimed to be the default? As I also pointed out, it's not just what I observe, it's what I and others have observed as well. So far, you are the only person claiming that two ports on a home user board is the default. I have not seen anyone else post that you are correct. Others have posted that you are not correct tho. The problem is, you claim that having two ports is the default. It is not the default. I've said it, even researched it and explained how I researched it, others have also posted the same point. Just because you have boards with two ports does not mean it is a default. Given the research I did, it isn't even close. Boards with two ports for a home user is not only not the default, it's somewhat rare. Out of the top 72 boards I checked, only a couple or so had two ports. That is far from being the default. That is quite rare. Even if it was 5 boards, that would be under 10%. That is hardly something to call a default. If it were say 50%, then one could at least argue that the default is moving to having two ports. It's just not the case. The sooner you figure that out the better for you. Dale :-) :-)