[gentoo-user] No kernel boot after inserting more ram

[gentoo-user] No kernel boot after inserting more ram

[José Pedro Saraiva]

[-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 614 bytes --]

Hi all, wise gentoo users!
I've recently bought an extra GB of RAM for my laptop. After inserting it,
kernel refuses to boot, it hangs at "Booting the kernel"
I'm sure there's nothing wrong with the RAM, so it must be some other issue,
perhaps related with my boot options?
Any help or ideas are welcome :)

Here's an extract of my grub.conf:

title  Gentoo 2.6.22-r8
root (hd0,1)
kernel /boot/kernel-2.6.22-r8 root=/dev/sda5
splash=verbose,fadein,theme:emergence fbcon=scrollback:128K
console=/dev/tty1 combined_mode=libata
initrd /boot/fbsplash-emergence-1024x768



Best regards,
José Pedro

[-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 717 bytes --]

Re: [gentoo-user] No kernel boot after inserting more ram

[Mick]

[-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 998 bytes --]

On Friday 18 January 2008, José Pedro Saraiva wrote:
> Hi all, wise gentoo users!
> I've recently bought an extra GB of RAM for my laptop. After inserting it,
> kernel refuses to boot, it hangs at "Booting the kernel"
> I'm sure there's nothing wrong with the RAM, so it must be some other
> issue, perhaps related with my boot options?

Well, if you haven't changed anything else other than the RAM module since the 
last time you booted the machine, then the problem would not be with your 
Grub configuration . . .  If you have, then revert the change.

> Any help or ideas are welcome :)

Boot a LiveCD and run memtest86.  Sometimes even new memory modules are duff.

> Here's an extract of my grub.conf:
>
> title  Gentoo 2.6.22-r8
> root (hd0,1)
> kernel /boot/kernel-2.6.22-r8 root=/dev/sda5
> splash=verbose,fadein,theme:emergence fbcon=scrollback:128K
> console=/dev/tty1 combined_mode=libata
> initrd /boot/fbsplash-emergence-1024x768

HTH.
-- 
Regards,
Mick

[-- Attachment #2: This is a digitally signed message part. --]
[-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 189 bytes --]

Re: [gentoo-user] No kernel boot after inserting more ram

[Philip Webb]

080118 José Pedro Saraiva wrote:
> Hi all, wise gentoo users!
> I've recently bought an extra GB of RAM for my laptop.
> After inserting it, kernel refuses to boot, hangs at "Booting the kernel"

The first thing is to re-insert the RAM very carefully,
then to check that no other connections got dislodged accidentally.
Just my bit of Gentoo wisdom (smile).

-- 
========================,,============================================
SUPPORT     ___________//___,  Philip Webb : purslow@chass.utoronto.ca
ELECTRIC   /] [] [] [] [] []|  Centre for Urban & Community Studies
TRANSIT    `-O----------O---'  University of Toronto
-- 
gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] No kernel boot after inserting more ram

[Mike]

[-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1166 bytes --]

Just a thought... Did you enable High Memory support in your kernel?

Processor type and features  --->
 High Memory Support  --->
  (X) 4GB


On Jan 18, 2008 4:10 PM, Philip Webb <purslow@sympatico.ca> wrote:

> 080118 José Pedro Saraiva wrote:
> > Hi all, wise gentoo users!
> > I've recently bought an extra GB of RAM for my laptop.
> > After inserting it, kernel refuses to boot, hangs at "Booting the
> kernel"
>
> The first thing is to re-insert the RAM very carefully,
> then to check that no other connections got dislodged accidentally.
> Just my bit of Gentoo wisdom (smile).
>
> --
> ========================,,============================================
> SUPPORT     ___________//___,  Philip Webb : purslow@chass.utoronto.ca
> ELECTRIC   /] [] [] [] [] []|  Centre for Urban & Community Studies
> TRANSIT    `-O----------O---'  University of Toronto
> --
> gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
>
>


-- 
"Courage is doing what is right."

"Do not be bound to any doctrine, theory or ideology, even Buddhist ones.
All systems of thought are guiding means, not absolute truth."  Thich Nhat
Hanh, Vietnamese monk.

[-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 1757 bytes --]

Re: [gentoo-user] No kernel boot after inserting more ram

[Ricardo Saffi Marques]

[-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1673 bytes --]

Nothing to do about it...
If he's using amd64 that option doesn't even exist.
And even if he's on x86, if that option is not enabled, it will boot, but
will just not use all the memory phisically available.

On 1/18/08, Mike <mtreas@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Just a thought... Did you enable High Memory support in your kernel?
>
> Processor type and features  --->
>  High Memory Support  --->
>   (X) 4GB
>
>
> On Jan 18, 2008 4:10 PM, Philip Webb <purslow@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> > 080118 José Pedro Saraiva wrote:
> > > Hi all, wise gentoo users!
> > > I've recently bought an extra GB of RAM for my laptop.
> > > After inserting it, kernel refuses to boot, hangs at "Booting the
> > kernel"
> >
> > The first thing is to re-insert the RAM very carefully,
> > then to check that no other connections got dislodged accidentally.
> > Just my bit of Gentoo wisdom (smile).
> >
> > --
> > ========================,,============================================
> > SUPPORT     ___________//___,  Philip Webb : purslow@chass.utoronto.ca
> > ELECTRIC   /] [] [] [] [] []|  Centre for Urban & Community Studies
> > TRANSIT    `-O----------O---'  University of Toronto
> > --
> > gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> "Courage is doing what is right."
>
> "Do not be bound to any doctrine, theory or ideology, even Buddhist ones.
> All systems of thought are guiding means, not absolute truth."  Thich Nhat
> Hanh, Vietnamese monk.




-- 
Ricardo Saffi Marques
Laboratório de Administração e Segurança de Sistemas (LAS/IC)
Universidade Estadual de Campinas (UNICAMP)
Cell: +55 (19) 8128-0435
Skype: ricardo_saffi_marques
Website: http://www.rsaffi.com

[-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 2875 bytes --]

Re: [gentoo-user] No kernel boot after inserting more ram

[Statux]

On Fri, 2008-01-18 at 22:58 +0000, José Pedro Saraiva wrote:
> Hi all, wise gentoo users!
> I've recently bought an extra GB of RAM for my laptop. After inserting
> it, kernel refuses to boot, it hangs at "Booting the kernel"
> I'm sure there's nothing wrong with the RAM, so it must be some other
> issue, perhaps related with my boot options? 
> Any help or ideas are welcome :)

I don't know if you've tried this one already but another idea would be
to enter the system setup (BIOS) and just save the changes, then reboot.
You used to have to do this after any physical changes with RAM, though
I haven't seen it in years.

Just something else to try.

> Here's an extract of my grub.conf:
> 
> title  Gentoo 2.6.22-r8
> root (hd0,1)
> kernel /boot/kernel-2.6.22-r8 root=/dev/sda5
> splash=verbose,fadein,theme:emergence fbcon=scrollback:128K
> console=/dev/tty1 combined_mode=libata 
> initrd /boot/fbsplash-emergence-1024x768
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> José Pedro
-- 
Statux <statux@optonline.net>

-- 
gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] No kernel boot after inserting more ram

[Neil Bothwick]

[-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 228 bytes --]

On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 22:58:59 +0000, José Pedro Saraiva wrote:

> I'm sure there's nothing wrong with the RAM,

How? Have you run memtest?


-- 
Neil Bothwick

Phasers don't kill people...Unless you set them too high.

[-- Attachment #2: signature.asc --]
[-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 189 bytes --]

Re: [gentoo-user] No kernel boot after inserting more ram

[Hal Martin]

An alternative to running memtest (which is quite easy to do, I might
add) would be to remove the original RAM and see if the computer boots
with the new RAM only.

Alternatively, you could just run memtest, as it is included with many
BIOSs now. It doesn't take long to identify problems, if there are any.
I find that test #5 is the best test for finding problems, however it
tends to keep you in the dark until it's finished the test.


-Hal


Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 22:58:59 +0000, José Pedro Saraiva wrote:
>
>   
>> I'm sure there's nothing wrong with the RAM,
>>     
>
> How? Have you run memtest?
>
>
>   

-- 
gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] No kernel boot after inserting more ram

[José Pedro Saraiva]

[-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1514 bytes --]

Following your replies I've done the following, in an attempt to isolate the
problem:
(memory #1 - "old" memory, memory #2 - new memory)

- Runned memtest on both memories with 0 errors
- Booted with both memories... kernel hang
- Booted with memory #1 on slot #1 successfully
- Booted with memory #1 on slot #2 successfully
- Booted with memory #2 on slot #1 successfully
- Booted with memory #2 on slot #2 successfully
- Booted with both memories on windows successfully

For some reason, my kernel hangs if I have 2 GB of RAM installed.
And I do have High memory support (4GB), although that doesn't seem
relevant.
Ideas? :X

Thank you all for the quick replies.
Cheers

On Jan 19, 2008 2:29 PM, Hal Martin <hal.martin@gmail.com> wrote:

> An alternative to running memtest (which is quite easy to do, I might
> add) would be to remove the original RAM and see if the computer boots
> with the new RAM only.
>
> Alternatively, you could just run memtest, as it is included with many
> BIOSs now. It doesn't take long to identify problems, if there are any.
> I find that test #5 is the best test for finding problems, however it
> tends to keep you in the dark until it's finished the test.
>
>
> -Hal
>
>
> Neil Bothwick wrote:
> > On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 22:58:59 +0000, José Pedro Saraiva wrote:
> >
> >
> >> I'm sure there's nothing wrong with the RAM,
> >>
> >
> > How? Have you run memtest?
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
>
>

[-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 2018 bytes --]

Re: [gentoo-user] No kernel boot after inserting more ram

[José Pedro Saraiva]

[-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 2006 bytes --]

Well, after all kinds of tests and trying different types of memory
configurations, I can only conclude that my kernel boots normally with 1 GB
of RAM installed but hangs when I have 2 GB of RAM installed. I can't find a
logical reason for this to happen.

Any pointers or suggestions are welcome,
Regards

On Jan 19, 2008 11:31 PM, José Pedro Saraiva <nocive@gmail.com> wrote:

> Following your replies I've done the following, in an attempt to isolate
> the problem:
> (memory #1 - "old" memory, memory #2 - new memory)
>
> - Runned memtest on both memories with 0 errors
> - Booted with both memories... kernel hang
> - Booted with memory #1 on slot #1 successfully
> - Booted with memory #1 on slot #2 successfully
> - Booted with memory #2 on slot #1 successfully
> - Booted with memory #2 on slot #2 successfully
> - Booted with both memories on windows successfully
>
> For some reason, my kernel hangs if I have 2 GB of RAM installed.
> And I do have High memory support (4GB), although that doesn't seem
> relevant.
> Ideas? :X
>
> Thank you all for the quick replies.
> Cheers
>
>
> On Jan 19, 2008 2:29 PM, Hal Martin <hal.martin@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > An alternative to running memtest (which is quite easy to do, I might
> > add) would be to remove the original RAM and see if the computer boots
> > with the new RAM only.
> >
> > Alternatively, you could just run memtest, as it is included with many
> > BIOSs now. It doesn't take long to identify problems, if there are any.
> > I find that test #5 is the best test for finding problems, however it
> > tends to keep you in the dark until it's finished the test.
> >
> >
> > -Hal
> >
> >
> > Neil Bothwick wrote:
> > > On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 22:58:59 +0000, José Pedro Saraiva wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >> I'm sure there's nothing wrong with the RAM,
> > >>
> > >
> > > How? Have you run memtest?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
> >
> >
>

[-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 2699 bytes --]

Re: [gentoo-user] No kernel boot after inserting more ram

[Thomas Kahle]

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1


Hi,

I guess your kernel is configured to support only 1GB of RAM. In the
kernel configuration look for "Processor Type and Features"
There you find the Option. High Memory Support.
Probably it is set to "off". Set it to 4GB then recompile the kernel.
That should do it.

have fun
Tom

José Pedro Saraiva wrote:
> Well, after all kinds of tests and trying different types of memory
> configurations, I can only conclude that my kernel boots normally with 1
> GB of RAM installed but hangs when I have 2 GB of RAM installed. I can't
> find a logical reason for this to happen.
> 
> Any pointers or suggestions are welcome,
> Regards
> 
> On Jan 19, 2008 11:31 PM, José Pedro Saraiva <nocive@gmail.com
> <mailto:nocive@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>     Following your replies I've done the following, in an attempt to
>     isolate the problem:
>     (memory #1 - "old" memory, memory #2 - new memory)
> 
>     - Runned memtest on both memories with 0 errors
>     - Booted with both memories... kernel hang
>     - Booted with memory #1 on slot #1 successfully
>     - Booted with memory #1 on slot #2 successfully
>     - Booted with memory #2 on slot #1 successfully
>     - Booted with memory #2 on slot #2 successfully
>     - Booted with both memories on windows successfully
> 
>     For some reason, my kernel hangs if I have 2 GB of RAM installed.
>     And I do have High memory support (4GB), although that doesn't seem
>     relevant.
>     Ideas? :X
> 
>     Thank you all for the quick replies.
>     Cheers
> 
> 
>     On Jan 19, 2008 2:29 PM, Hal Martin <hal.martin@gmail.com
>     <mailto:hal.martin@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>         An alternative to running memtest (which is quite easy to do, I
>         might
>         add) would be to remove the original RAM and see if the computer
>         boots
>         with the new RAM only.
> 
>         Alternatively, you could just run memtest, as it is included
>         with many
>         BIOSs now. It doesn't take long to identify problems, if there
>         are any.
>         I find that test #5 is the best test for finding problems,
>         however it
>         tends to keep you in the dark until it's finished the test.
> 
> 
>         -Hal
> 
> 
>         Neil Bothwick wrote:
>         > On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 22:58:59 +0000, José Pedro Saraiva wrote:
>         >
>         >
>         >> I'm sure there's nothing wrong with the RAM,
>         >>
>         >
>         > How? Have you run memtest?
>         >
>         >
>         >
> 
>         --
>         gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
>         <mailto:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org> mailing list
> 
> 
> 

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: GnuPG v2.0.7 (GNU/Linux)
Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org

iD8DBQFHk86lrpEWPKIUt7MRAtm6AJ9EbOJfcrxM7UoceMz3B2gdpKLn1gCfdMMh
+04EiTXdzcE5JOp6ON5IQOQ=
=SdgG
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
-- 
gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] No kernel boot after inserting more ram

[José Pedro Saraiva]

[-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 3450 bytes --]

On Jan 20, 2008 10:43 PM, Thomas Kahle <tom111@gmx.de> wrote:

> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA1
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I guess your kernel is configured to support only 1GB of RAM. In the
> kernel configuration look for "Processor Type and Features"
> There you find the Option. High Memory Support.
> Probably it is set to "off". Set it to 4GB then recompile the kernel.
> That should do it.

That was already suggested in a previous reply :)
I do have High Memory Support enabled with 4GB, still, it refuses to boot!

>
>
> have fun
> Tom
>
> José Pedro Saraiva wrote:
> > Well, after all kinds of tests and trying different types of memory
> > configurations, I can only conclude that my kernel boots normally with 1
> > GB of RAM installed but hangs when I have 2 GB of RAM installed. I can't
> > find a logical reason for this to happen.
> >
> > Any pointers or suggestions are welcome,
> > Regards
> >
> > On Jan 19, 2008 11:31 PM, José Pedro Saraiva <nocive@gmail.com
> > <mailto:nocive@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> >     Following your replies I've done the following, in an attempt to
> >     isolate the problem:
> >     (memory #1 - "old" memory, memory #2 - new memory)
> >
> >     - Runned memtest on both memories with 0 errors
> >     - Booted with both memories... kernel hang
> >     - Booted with memory #1 on slot #1 successfully
> >     - Booted with memory #1 on slot #2 successfully
> >     - Booted with memory #2 on slot #1 successfully
> >     - Booted with memory #2 on slot #2 successfully
> >     - Booted with both memories on windows successfully
> >
> >     For some reason, my kernel hangs if I have 2 GB of RAM installed.
> >     And I do have High memory support (4GB), although that doesn't seem
> >     relevant.
> >     Ideas? :X
> >
> >     Thank you all for the quick replies.
> >     Cheers
> >
> >
> >     On Jan 19, 2008 2:29 PM, Hal Martin <hal.martin@gmail.com
> >     <mailto:hal.martin@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> >         An alternative to running memtest (which is quite easy to do, I
> >         might
> >         add) would be to remove the original RAM and see if the computer
> >         boots
> >         with the new RAM only.
> >
> >         Alternatively, you could just run memtest, as it is included
> >         with many
> >         BIOSs now. It doesn't take long to identify problems, if there
> >         are any.
> >         I find that test #5 is the best test for finding problems,
> >         however it
> >         tends to keep you in the dark until it's finished the test.
> >
> >
> >         -Hal
> >
> >
> >         Neil Bothwick wrote:
> >         > On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 22:58:59 +0000, José Pedro Saraiva wrote:
> >         >
> >         >
> >         >> I'm sure there's nothing wrong with the RAM,
> >         >>
> >         >
> >         > How? Have you run memtest?
> >         >
> >         >
> >         >
> >
> >         --
> >         gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> >         <mailto:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org> mailing list
> >
> >
> >
>
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
> Version: GnuPG v2.0.7 (GNU/Linux)
> Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org
>
> iD8DBQFHk86lrpEWPKIUt7MRAtm6AJ9EbOJfcrxM7UoceMz3B2gdpKLn1gCfdMMh
> +04EiTXdzcE5JOp6ON5IQOQ=
> =SdgG
> -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
> --
> gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
>
>

[-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 5322 bytes --]

RE: [gentoo-user] No kernel boot after inserting more ram

[de Almeida, Valmor F.]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: José Pedro Saraiva [mailto:nocive@gmail.com]
> Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 4:48 PM
> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org

...snip...

> 	- Booted with both memories on windows successfully

...snip...

This is surprising.

Have you tried to boot from a liveCD with both memory modules inserted?

--
Valmor
--
gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list