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Linux x86_64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/91.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.18.2 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------6882D248D287EFAAED7204D9" X-Archives-Salt: fc1fe18a-2186-4d08-bbe7-20b4ee075c4d X-Archives-Hash: 23f281f0107bed7ea4c2311b4da1f6ca This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------6882D248D287EFAAED7204D9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Mark Knecht wrote: > > > On Thu, Jun 27, 2024 at 2:13 PM Dale > wrote: > > > I've tried to use nvidia-settings but the man page is like Greek.  > The one thing I did figure out, -q all.  On my main rig, it spits out > TONS of info.  On the new rig, it just says something like no display > found or something.  It's like two lines, maybe one. > > > > Had several interruptions so managed to try Kubuntu "Try" option.  > It comes up just fine, correct resolution, plasma is working and all.  > I'm attaching the Xorg log from Kubuntu. > > > > Maybe the Kubuntu log will shed some light. > > > > Dale > > > > :-)  :-) > > OK, so if Kubuntu comes up and runs stable for an hour or two then I > don't think it's your new rig or monitor. > > I have a suspicion that Kubuntu booted and loaded the Open Source > driver and not the nvidia driver, but that's just a guess. However, if > that's the case then you can almost certainly use whatever Kubuntu has > used as far as drivers and an xorg.conf file and see if that helps > with your Gentoo issues. Once you get Gentoo working with the Open > Source driver then you could investigate using nvidia's. > > If you have time to let the machine soak awhile then I'd consider a > reboot into Kubuntu and then take a look at what drivers are loaded > using lsmod. There will likely be a huge list. I have a 2 year old > machine that's not unlike your new machine (yours is slightly more > powerful I think) but the list of drivers loaded is just huge. However > it works, and once you get it going with lots of drivers you can then > rebuild things with them in the kernel if you want to. > > Anyway, look at lsmod and report back. Here's mine running Kubuntu, > and I have no xorg.conf but it runs fine with 3 monitors. > > mark@science2:~$ lsmod | grep nvidia > nvidia_uvm           1789952  0 > nvidia_drm             90112  16 > nvidia_modeset       1314816  39 nvidia_drm > nvidia              56827904  1890 nvidia_uvm,nvidia_modeset > video                  73728  2 asus_wmi,nvidia_modeset > mark@science2:~$ > > Good luck, > Mark I think the rig and video card are fine.  I did try a different card and version of nvidia drivers once tho.  Same thing.  At first, I tried the nouveau drivers.  All the bootable media uses that driver.  When I tried it on my install, it was very slow and the mouse pointer was very jerky.  It was horrible.  I removed those drivers and installed nvidia.  Sadly, things got worse.  I'll boot into Kubuntu again and see what info it has.  The ones I attached tho is all there was. Either it doesn't have those files or the files were blank.  I think Xorg and messages was all there was.  I'm out of steam.  May boot Kubuntu and let it sit while I nap.  It worked for several minutes last time tho.  It seemed to work fine.  Very fast too, unlike on my install.  Dale :-)  :-)  --------------6882D248D287EFAAED7204D9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Mark Knecht wrote:


On Thu, Jun 27, 2024 at 2:13 PM Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
<SNIP>
> I've tried to use nvidia-settings but the man page is like Greek.  The one thing I did figure out, -q all.  On my main rig, it spits out TONS of info.  On the new rig, it just says something like no display found or something.  It's like two lines, maybe one.
>
> Had several interruptions so managed to try Kubuntu "Try" option.  It comes up just fine, correct resolution, plasma is working and all.  I'm attaching the Xorg log from Kubuntu.
>
> Maybe the Kubuntu log will shed some light.
>
> Dale
>
> :-)  :-)

OK, so if Kubuntu comes up and runs stable for an hour or two then I don't think it's your new rig or monitor.

I have a suspicion that Kubuntu booted and loaded the Open Source driver and not the nvidia driver, but that's just a guess. However, if that's the case then you can almost certainly use whatever Kubuntu has used as far as drivers and an xorg.conf file and see if that helps with your Gentoo issues. Once you get Gentoo working with the Open Source driver then you could investigate using nvidia's.

If you have time to let the machine soak awhile then I'd consider a reboot into Kubuntu and then take a look at what drivers are loaded using lsmod. There will likely be a huge list. I have a 2 year old machine that's not unlike your new machine (yours is slightly more powerful I think) but the list of drivers loaded is just huge. However it works, and once you get it going with lots of drivers you can then rebuild things with them in the kernel if you want to.

Anyway, look at lsmod and report back. Here's mine running Kubuntu, and I have no xorg.conf but it runs fine with 3 monitors.

mark@science2:~$ lsmod | grep nvidia
nvidia_uvm           1789952  0
nvidia_drm             90112  16
nvidia_modeset       1314816  39 nvidia_drm
nvidia              56827904  1890 nvidia_uvm,nvidia_modeset
video                  73728  2 asus_wmi,nvidia_modeset
mark@science2:~$

Good luck,
Mark


I think the rig and video card are fine.  I did try a different card and version of nvidia drivers once tho.  Same thing.  At first, I tried the nouveau drivers.  All the bootable media uses that driver.  When I tried it on my install, it was very slow and the mouse pointer was very jerky.  It was horrible.  I removed those drivers and installed nvidia.  Sadly, things got worse. 

I'll boot into Kubuntu again and see what info it has.  The ones I attached tho is all there was. Either it doesn't have those files or the files were blank.  I think Xorg and messages was all there was. 

I'm out of steam.  May boot Kubuntu and let it sit while I nap.  It worked for several minutes last time tho.  It seemed to work fine.  Very fast too, unlike on my install. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 
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