* [gentoo-user] how to deploy a video lab?
@ 2005-07-26 7:15 simply change
2005-07-26 20:44 ` David Miller
2005-07-31 8:59 ` Dimitar Toshev
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From: simply change @ 2005-07-26 7:15 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
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AybOwan! (=welcome)
dear lu_zero,
im a Sinhalease from Sri lanka. i have a small company here in lanka (video
filming company ex:- wedding, parties filming). my editing tools are Adobe
Premeir,after effect, etc like propriatary software.so now i want to fully
migrate to Gentoo Linux. today i just try to emerge Cinelerra to my Gentoo
box but it has been Masked. so friends please be kind enought to advice me
to setting up a full professional video lab using Gentoo Linux.
--
...
"The future lies ahead."
_______________________
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\ (oo) \_______
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* Re: [gentoo-user] how to deploy a video lab?
2005-07-26 7:15 [gentoo-user] how to deploy a video lab? simply change
@ 2005-07-26 20:44 ` David Miller
2005-07-26 21:41 ` Nick Rout
2005-07-27 10:18 ` simply change
2005-07-31 8:59 ` Dimitar Toshev
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From: David Miller @ 2005-07-26 20:44 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
Last time I tried Cinelerra it was not what I would call production
ready and feature wise it can not replace Premier. However if you
want to test it out see the following link for instructions on how to
use portage and correctly deal with masked packages.
http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Use_Portage_Correctly
In short you can do the following and then emerge normally.
echo "media-video/cinelerra ~x86" >> /etc/portage/package.keywords
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David
On 7/26/05, simply change <adaptit@gmail.com> wrote:
> AybOwan! (=welcome)
>
> dear lu_zero,
>
> im a Sinhalease from Sri lanka. i have a small company here in lanka (video filming company ex:- wedding, parties filming). my editing tools are Adobe Premeir,after effect, etc like propriatary software.so now i want to fully migrate to Gentoo Linux. today i just try to emerge Cinelerra to my Gentoo box but it has been Masked. so friends please be kind enought to advice me to setting up a full professional video lab using Gentoo Linux.
>
> --
> ...
> "The future lies ahead."
> _______________________
> < Have you mooed today? >
> -----------------------
> \ ^__^
> \ (oo) \_______
> (__) \ )\/\
> ||------w |
> || ||
>
> Gentoo Linux 2.6.12-gentoo-r4-Adapt-v1.1#
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* Re: [gentoo-user] how to deploy a video lab?
2005-07-26 20:44 ` David Miller
@ 2005-07-26 21:41 ` Nick Rout
2005-07-27 10:20 ` simply change
2005-07-27 10:18 ` simply change
1 sibling, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Nick Rout @ 2005-07-26 21:41 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
better still install main actor. heres how I did it:
1. Go to http://mainconcept.com and download the SuSE rpm. The file I
downloaded is mainactor-5.5.7-suse_9.3.i686.rpm
2. emerge rpm if it is not already on your system
3. install mainactor:
rpm -Uvh --nodeps mainactor-5.5.7-suse_9.3.i686.rpm
4. run the binary:
mactor
5. There is a good manual for downloading in pdf format. It is worth
reading. There are also support forums.
This is a closed source package, but it is IMHO very good. It will
work as per a licensed copy except it renders a message on your video
when doing final rendering. You can therefore get a good idea of what it
does, without the normal shareware "die after 30 days" or "render only
up to two minutes" nonsense. The license is EUR177/USD199. Not super
cheap, but there is not a lot of choice of good video editing software
on linux.
kino is quite good, but limited in the file formats it will handle,
basically dv (ie as captured from a digital video camera). it will
render to other formats, but will only import a rather limited range.
cinelerra should be good but is almost document-less.
avidemux is a good front end for basic cutting of scenes and trancoding
to other formats, but doesn't have any ability to add effects or transitions,
so is not a real video editor of the sort you want. Its good for
bringing in a video track (eg recorded tv), cutting out the bits you
don't want (ads, start & finish overlap, sex etc) and then rendering to
something like xvid, although it will render to DVD compatible mpeg2
too.
You may want to present clients with well mastered dvd's once you have
edited the scenes and added transitions and a soundtrack. I know that
some winders products offer a suite which does everything from DV camera import
through to burning the DVD. The linux approach will require more mix and
match, especially putting together DVD menus and stuff which will
require a tool like dvdstyler.I have successfully used dvdstyler to make
dvd's of family movies, recorded TV etc complete with menus.
One thing to note too is that there is a bit of a trend for cameras to
take mpeg or avi files instead of the more tradition digital video cam
DV format, It would pay to make sure that you will be able to use your
raw material in whatever software you decide to use. There are all sorts
of possibilities for transcoding stuff to a usable format before you
edit it, but the more steps you put in the process the more quality you
can lose.
On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 16:44:46 -0400
David Miller wrote:
> Last time I tried Cinelerra it was not what I would call production
> ready and feature wise it can not replace Premier. However if you
> want to test it out see the following link for instructions on how to
> use portage and correctly deal with masked packages.
> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Use_Portage_Correctly
>
> In short you can do the following and then emerge normally.
>
> echo "media-video/cinelerra ~x86" >> /etc/portage/package.keywords
>
> --
> David
>
> On 7/26/05, simply change <adaptit@gmail.com> wrote:
> > AybOwan! (=welcome)
> >
> > dear lu_zero,
> >
> > im a Sinhalease from Sri lanka. i have a small company here in lanka (video filming company ex:- wedding, parties filming). my editing tools are Adobe Premeir,after effect, etc like propriatary software.so now i want to fully migrate to Gentoo Linux. today i just try to emerge Cinelerra to my Gentoo box but it has been Masked. so friends please be kind enought to advice me to setting up a full professional video lab using Gentoo Linux.
> >
> > --
> > ...
> > "The future lies ahead."
> > _______________________
> > < Have you mooed today? >
> > -----------------------
> > \ ^__^
> > \ (oo) \_______
> > (__) \ )\/\
> > ||------w |
> > || ||
> >
> > Gentoo Linux 2.6.12-gentoo-r4-Adapt-v1.1#
>
> --
> gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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Christchurch
Contact details at http://www.rout.co.nz
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* Re: [gentoo-user] how to deploy a video lab?
2005-07-26 20:44 ` David Miller
2005-07-26 21:41 ` Nick Rout
@ 2005-07-27 10:18 ` simply change
1 sibling, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: simply change @ 2005-07-27 10:18 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
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friend David,
first of all thank you very much for your co-operation.
so i don't want to try out MASKED cinelerra video editor. you tell me to use
the best one.
On 7/27/05, David Miller <david3d@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Last time I tried Cinelerra it was not what I would call production
> ready and feature wise it can not replace Premier. However if you
> want to test it out see the following link for instructions on how to
> use portage and correctly deal with masked packages.
> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Use_Portage_Correctly
>
> In short you can do the following and then emerge normally.
>
> echo "media-video/cinelerra ~x86" >> /etc/portage/package.keywords
>
> --
> David
>
> On 7/26/05, simply change <adaptit@gmail.com> wrote:
> > AybOwan! (=welcome)
> >
> > dear lu_zero,
> >
> > im a Sinhalease from Sri lanka. i have a small company here in lanka
> (video filming company ex:- wedding, parties filming). my editing tools are
> Adobe Premeir,after effect, etc like propriatary software.so now i want to
> fully migrate to Gentoo Linux. today i just try to emerge Cinelerra to my
> Gentoo box but it has been Masked. so friends please be kind enought to
> advice me to setting up a full professional video lab using Gentoo Linux.
> >
> > --
> > ...
> > "The future lies ahead."
> > _______________________
> > < Have you mooed today? >
> > -----------------------
> > \ ^__^
> > \ (oo) \_______
> > (__) \ )\/\
> > ||------w |
> > || ||
> >
> > Gentoo Linux 2.6.12-gentoo-r4-Adapt-v1.1#
>
> --
> gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
>
>
--
...
"The future lies ahead."
_______________________
< Have you mooed today? >
-----------------------
\ ^__^
\ (oo) \_______
(__) \ )\/\
||------w |
|| ||
Gentoo Linux 2.6.12-gentoo-r4-Adapt-v1.1#
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* Re: [gentoo-user] how to deploy a video lab?
2005-07-26 21:41 ` Nick Rout
@ 2005-07-27 10:20 ` simply change
0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: simply change @ 2005-07-27 10:20 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
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friend nick,
mainActor wants a serial no to work without the watermark sign. so anything
have to...
On 7/27/05, Nick Rout <nick@rout.co.nz> wrote:
>
> better still install main actor. heres how I did it:
>
> 1. Go to http://mainconcept.com and download the SuSE rpm. The file I
> downloaded is mainactor-5.5.7-suse_9.3.i686.rpm
>
> 2. emerge rpm if it is not already on your system
>
> 3. install mainactor:
>
> rpm -Uvh --nodeps mainactor-5.5.7-suse_9.3.i686.rpm
>
> 4. run the binary:
>
> mactor
>
> 5. There is a good manual for downloading in pdf format. It is worth
> reading. There are also support forums.
>
> This is a closed source package, but it is IMHO very good. It will
> work as per a licensed copy except it renders a message on your video
> when doing final rendering. You can therefore get a good idea of what it
> does, without the normal shareware "die after 30 days" or "render only
> up to two minutes" nonsense. The license is EUR177/USD199. Not super
> cheap, but there is not a lot of choice of good video editing software
> on linux.
>
> kino is quite good, but limited in the file formats it will handle,
> basically dv (ie as captured from a digital video camera). it will
> render to other formats, but will only import a rather limited range.
>
> cinelerra should be good but is almost document-less.
>
> avidemux is a good front end for basic cutting of scenes and trancoding
> to other formats, but doesn't have any ability to add effects or
> transitions,
> so is not a real video editor of the sort you want. Its good for
> bringing in a video track (eg recorded tv), cutting out the bits you
> don't want (ads, start & finish overlap, sex etc) and then rendering to
> something like xvid, although it will render to DVD compatible mpeg2
> too.
>
> You may want to present clients with well mastered dvd's once you have
> edited the scenes and added transitions and a soundtrack. I know that
> some winders products offer a suite which does everything from DV camera
> import
> through to burning the DVD. The linux approach will require more mix and
> match, especially putting together DVD menus and stuff which will
> require a tool like dvdstyler.I have successfully used dvdstyler to make
> dvd's of family movies, recorded TV etc complete with menus.
>
> One thing to note too is that there is a bit of a trend for cameras to
> take mpeg or avi files instead of the more tradition digital video cam
> DV format, It would pay to make sure that you will be able to use your
> raw material in whatever software you decide to use. There are all sorts
> of possibilities for transcoding stuff to a usable format before you
> edit it, but the more steps you put in the process the more quality you
> can lose.
>
>
> On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 16:44:46 -0400
> David Miller wrote:
>
> > Last time I tried Cinelerra it was not what I would call production
> > ready and feature wise it can not replace Premier. However if you
> > want to test it out see the following link for instructions on how to
> > use portage and correctly deal with masked packages.
> > http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Use_Portage_Correctly
> >
> > In short you can do the following and then emerge normally.
> >
> > echo "media-video/cinelerra ~x86" >> /etc/portage/package.keywords
> >
> > --
> > David
> >
> > On 7/26/05, simply change <adaptit@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > AybOwan! (=welcome)
> > >
> > > dear lu_zero,
> > >
> > > im a Sinhalease from Sri lanka. i have a small company here in lanka
> (video filming company ex:- wedding, parties filming). my editing tools are
> Adobe Premeir,after effect, etc like propriatary software.so now i want to
> fully migrate to Gentoo Linux. today i just try to emerge Cinelerra to my
> Gentoo box but it has been Masked. so friends please be kind enought to
> advice me to setting up a full professional video lab using Gentoo Linux.
> > >
> > > --
> > > ...
> > > "The future lies ahead."
> > > _______________________
> > > < Have you mooed today? >
> > > -----------------------
> > > \ ^__^
> > > \ (oo) \_______
> > > (__) \ )\/\
> > > ||------w |
> > > || ||
> > >
> > > Gentoo Linux 2.6.12-gentoo-r4-Adapt-v1.1#
> >
> > --
> > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
>
> --
> Nick Rout
> Barrister & Solicitor
> Christchurch
> Contact details at http://www.rout.co.nz
> nick@rout.co.nz
>
> --
> gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
>
>
--
...
"The future lies ahead."
_______________________
< Have you mooed today? >
-----------------------
\ ^__^
\ (oo) \_______
(__) \ )\/\
||------w |
|| ||
Gentoo Linux 2.6.12-gentoo-r4-Adapt-v1.1#
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* Re: [gentoo-user] how to deploy a video lab?
2005-07-26 7:15 [gentoo-user] how to deploy a video lab? simply change
2005-07-26 20:44 ` David Miller
@ 2005-07-31 8:59 ` Dimitar Toshev
1 sibling, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Dimitar Toshev @ 2005-07-31 8:59 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On Tue, 2005-07-26 at 13:15 +0600, simply change wrote:
> AybOwan! (=welcome)
>
> dear lu_zero,
>
> im a Sinhalease from Sri lanka. i have a small company here in lanka
> (video filming company ex:- wedding, parties filming). my editing
> tools are Adobe Premeir,after effect, etc like propriatary software.so
> now i want to fully migrate to Gentoo Linux. today i just try to
> emerge Cinelerra to my Gentoo box but it has been Masked. so friends
> please be kind enought to advice me to setting up a full professional
> video lab using Gentoo Linux.
>
> --
> ...
> "The future lies ahead."
> _______________________
> < Have you mooed today? >
> -----------------------
> \ ^__^
> \ (oo) \_______
> (__) \ )\/\
> ||------w |
> || ||
>
> Gentoo Linux 2.6.12-gentoo-r4-Adapt-v1.1#
I rally doubt that gentoo is the right choice for a video lab. It might
work, but it would take a lot of time and if everything works under win,
why do you want to move to gentoo? If you are really certain that it's
specifically gentoo that you want and nothing else, please read the docs
at http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/index.xml the handbook explains
how to work with portage, what masked packages are, etc.
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