[gentoo-user] Scripting KDE?

[gentoo-user] Scripting KDE?

[Peter Humphrey]

Greetings,

I'd like to be able to shut a KDE machine down from another room, over SSH. If 
I do that with a simple 'reboot' command, I lose all my desktop contents. Not 
surprising, as KDE is not shutting itself down but having the rug yanked out 
from under it.

Is there a way to pass a shutdown command to KDE over SSH? Google doesn't help 
me much, though it has a good deal of stuff on scripting inside KDE.

-- 
Regards,
Peter.

Re: [gentoo-user] Scripting KDE?

[Matt Connell]

On Mon, 2024-07-29 at 14:17 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> Is there a way to pass a shutdown command to KDE over SSH? Google
> doesn't help
> me much, though it has a good deal of stuff on scripting inside KDE.


loginctl terminate-session 

^ would be the first thing I would try.

Re: [gentoo-user] Scripting KDE?

[Michael]

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On Monday, 29 July 2024 14:27:03 BST Matt Connell wrote:
> On Mon, 2024-07-29 at 14:17 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > Is there a way to pass a shutdown command to KDE over SSH? Google
> > doesn't help
> > me much, though it has a good deal of stuff on scripting inside KDE.
> 
> loginctl terminate-session
> 
> ^ would be the first thing I would try.

That'll exit the desktop session.

Try 'loginctl hibernate' if you want to save everything to disk, or for 
'loginctl suspend' for a faster startup.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Scripting KDE?

[Matt Connell]

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On Mon, 2024-07-29 at 14:32 +0100, Michael wrote:
> > loginctl terminate-session
> That'll exit the desktop session.

I was on the right track at least.

I'm accustomed to doing it with xfce-session-logout

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Re: [gentoo-user] Scripting KDE?

[Peter Humphrey]

On Monday, 29 July 2024 14:32:24 BST Michael wrote:
> On Monday, 29 July 2024 14:27:03 BST Matt Connell wrote:
> > On Mon, 2024-07-29 at 14:17 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > > Is there a way to pass a shutdown command to KDE over SSH? Google
> > > doesn't help me much, though it has a good deal of stuff on scripting
> > > inside KDE.
> > 
> > loginctl terminate-session
> > 
> > ^ would be the first thing I would try.
> 
> That'll exit the desktop session.
> 
> Try 'loginctl hibernate' if you want to save everything to disk, or for
> 'loginctl suspend' for a faster startup.

No, I don't suspend or hibernate here; I'll try Matt's suggestion and follow 
it with 'sudo reboot'.

Thank you both.

-- 
Regards,
Peter.

Re: [gentoo-user] Scripting KDE?

[Mark Knecht]

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On Mon, Jul 29, 2024 at 6:42 AM Peter Humphrey <peter@prh.myzen.co.uk>
wrote:
>
> On Monday, 29 July 2024 14:32:24 BST Michael wrote:
> > On Monday, 29 July 2024 14:27:03 BST Matt Connell wrote:
> > > On Mon, 2024-07-29 at 14:17 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > > > Is there a way to pass a shutdown command to KDE over SSH? Google
> > > > doesn't help me much, though it has a good deal of stuff on
scripting
> > > > inside KDE.
> > >
> > > loginctl terminate-session
> > >
> > > ^ would be the first thing I would try.
> >
> > That'll exit the desktop session.
> >
> > Try 'loginctl hibernate' if you want to save everything to disk, or for
> > 'loginctl suspend' for a faster startup.
>
> No, I don't suspend or hibernate here; I'll try Matt's suggestion and
follow
> it with 'sudo reboot'.
>
> Thank you both.
>
> --
> Regards,
> Peter.

Or possibly sudo shutdown -h now?

- Mark

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Re: [gentoo-user] Scripting KDE?

[Peter Humphrey]

On Monday, 29 July 2024 16:10:10 BST Mark Knecht wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 29, 2024 at 6:42 AM Peter Humphrey <peter@prh.myzen.co.uk>
> 
> wrote:
> > On Monday, 29 July 2024 14:32:24 BST Michael wrote:
> > > On Monday, 29 July 2024 14:27:03 BST Matt Connell wrote:
> > > > On Mon, 2024-07-29 at 14:17 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > > > > Is there a way to pass a shutdown command to KDE over SSH? Google
> > > > > doesn't help me much, though it has a good deal of stuff on
> 
> scripting
> 
> > > > > inside KDE.
> > > > 
> > > > loginctl terminate-session
> > > > 
> > > > ^ would be the first thing I would try.
> > > 
> > > That'll exit the desktop session.
> > > 
> > > Try 'loginctl hibernate' if you want to save everything to disk, or for
> > > 'loginctl suspend' for a faster startup.
> > 
> > No, I don't suspend or hibernate here; I'll try Matt's suggestion and
> 
> follow
> 
> > it with 'sudo reboot'.
> > 
> > Thank you both.
> > 
> > --
> > Regards,
> > Peter.
> 
> Or possibly sudo shutdown -h now?

Yes. The bit I needed was getting KDE to exit gracefully instead of being 
killed blindly.

-- 
Regards,
Peter.

Re: [gentoo-user] Scripting KDE?

[Dale]

Peter Humphrey wrote:
> On Monday, 29 July 2024 16:10:10 BST Mark Knecht wrote:
>> On Mon, Jul 29, 2024 at 6:42 AM Peter Humphrey <peter@prh.myzen.co.uk>
>>
>> wrote:
>>> On Monday, 29 July 2024 14:32:24 BST Michael wrote:
>>>> On Monday, 29 July 2024 14:27:03 BST Matt Connell wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 2024-07-29 at 14:17 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
>>>>>> Is there a way to pass a shutdown command to KDE over SSH? Google
>>>>>> doesn't help me much, though it has a good deal of stuff on
>> scripting
>>
>>>>>> inside KDE.
>>>>> loginctl terminate-session
>>>>>
>>>>> ^ would be the first thing I would try.
>>>> That'll exit the desktop session.
>>>>
>>>> Try 'loginctl hibernate' if you want to save everything to disk, or for
>>>> 'loginctl suspend' for a faster startup.
>>> No, I don't suspend or hibernate here; I'll try Matt's suggestion and
>> follow
>>
>>> it with 'sudo reboot'.
>>>
>>> Thank you both.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Regards,
>>> Peter.
>> Or possibly sudo shutdown -h now?
> Yes. The bit I needed was getting KDE to exit gracefully instead of being 
> killed blindly.
>


I've ran into this a time or two here.  I'll do a upgrade but for some
reason, KDE won't log itself out on its own.  I guess some package got
out of sync or something.  I end up going to a console and doing things
the manual way.  When I do that, I get the desktop I had when I logged
out the previous time since that is what was saved. 

Given the regular logout process doesn't work, this command line way may
not either but I'm hoping to remember it and give it a try.  If it will
work over ssh, maybe it will work when on the system itself.  I had no
idea there was a command line way to logout.  Looking at help info, it
has a lot of options. 

I still don't like this small version of a keyboard.  I like the size of
the old Dell Quietkey from my old rig.  It's old, PS/2 and all but it
fits my fingers better.  I can't find a reasonably priced replacement. 
They all seem to be smaller.  How does one type on these little
things???  I get lots of typos. 

Dale

:-)  :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] Scripting KDE?

[gentoo]

Hello,

29.07.2024 15:17:26 Peter Humphrey <peter@prh.myzen.co.uk>:
> I'd like to be able to shut a KDE machine down from another room, over SSH.

https://superuser.com/questions/395820/how-to-properly-end-a-kde-session-from-shell-without-root-privileges
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/78175326/how-can-i-trigger-shutdown-or-logout-in-kde-plasma-via-qdbus-in-python

(don't get irritated about that python in the second)

HTH,
-dnh

Re: [gentoo-user] Scripting KDE?

[Peter Humphrey]

On Monday, 29 July 2024 21:12:35 BST gentoo@dhaller.de wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> 29.07.2024 15:17:26 Peter Humphrey <peter@prh.myzen.co.uk>:
> > I'd like to be able to shut a KDE machine down from another room, over
> > SSH.
> 
> https://superuser.com/questions/395820/how-to-properly-end-a-kde-session-fro
> m-shell-without-root-privileges
> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/78175326/how-can-i-trigger-shutdown-or-> logout-in-kde-plasma-via-qdbus-in-python

Interesting; thanks.

-- 
Regards,
Peter.

Re: [gentoo-user] Scripting KDE?

[Frank Steinmetzger]

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Am Mon, Jul 29, 2024 at 02:17:13PM +0100 schrieb Peter Humphrey:
> Greetings,
> 
> I'd like to be able to shut a KDE machine down from another room, over SSH. If 
> I do that with a simple 'reboot' command, I lose all my desktop contents. Not 
> surprising, as KDE is not shutting itself down but having the rug yanked out 
> from under it.
> 
> Is there a way to pass a shutdown command to KDE over SSH? Google doesn't help 
> me much, though it has a good deal of stuff on scripting inside KDE.

Process communication in KDE happens with dbus. So whenever you want to 
trigger an action in KDE vom the terminal, this is where you should look.

The first two hits when I searched for "kde dbus logout" are:
https://superuser.com/questions/395820/how-to-properly-end-a-kde-session-from-shell-without-root-privileges
https://discuss.kde.org/t/logout-reboot-and-shutdown-using-the-terminal/743

Perhaps they put you on the right track to your goal.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Scripting KDE?

[Frank Steinmetzger]

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Am Mon, Jul 29, 2024 at 02:34:31PM -0500 schrieb Dale:

> I still don't like this small version of a keyboard.  I like the size of
> the old Dell Quietkey from my old rig.  It's old, PS/2 and all but it
> fits my fingers better.  I can't find a reasonably priced replacement. 
> They all seem to be smaller.  How does one type on these little
> things???  I get lots of typos. 

Well the obvious question is then, why did you buy a small keyboard? :o)
Those key sizes are standardised. AFAIK the stardard key raster is 19 mm per 
single-width key. So unless you chose a specifically down-scaled product, it 
should be the same size as it’s ever been. What did you buy anyways?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Scripting KDE?

[Dale]

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Frank Steinmetzger wrote:
> Am Mon, Jul 29, 2024 at 02:34:31PM -0500 schrieb Dale:
>
>> I still don't like this small version of a keyboard.  I like the size of
>> the old Dell Quietkey from my old rig.  It's old, PS/2 and all but it
>> fits my fingers better.  I can't find a reasonably priced replacement. 
>> They all seem to be smaller.  How does one type on these little
>> things???  I get lots of typos. 
> Well the obvious question is then, why did you buy a small keyboard? :o)
> Those key sizes are standardised. AFAIK the stardard key raster is 19 mm per 
> single-width key. So unless you chose a specifically down-scaled product, it 
> should be the same size as it’s ever been. What did you buy anyways?
>

Well, there's something different because it "feels" different.  I keep
hitting keys to one side or the other mostly.  The only difference I can
see,  the key caps are shorter than the old Dell QuietKey.  I suspect
the key caps are twice as tall on the old Dell.  Also, the old Dell had
more travel for each key press too.  I've used that old thing for over
20 years.  My old brain can't learn new tricks.  ROFL 

I been looking for a keyboard that is like the old Dell QuietKey but
they either ridiculously expensive or are old Dell keyboards with the
PS/2 connector like I already have.  Thought about buying a adapter so I
can use the old Dell.  That would fix the problem. 

Now that I've proofed this thing half a dozen times and corrected a
bunch of typos, let's hit send.  LOL  If I was a book writer, forget
about it.  I'd retire.  o_-

Dale

:-)  :-) 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Scripting KDE?

[Michael]

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On Sunday, 18 August 2024 19:15:32 BST Dale wrote:
> Frank Steinmetzger wrote:
> > Am Mon, Jul 29, 2024 at 02:34:31PM -0500 schrieb Dale:
> >> I still don't like this small version of a keyboard.  I like the size of
> >> the old Dell Quietkey from my old rig.  It's old, PS/2 and all but it
> >> fits my fingers better.  I can't find a reasonably priced replacement. 
> >> They all seem to be smaller.  How does one type on these little
> >> things???  I get lots of typos. 
> > 
> > Well the obvious question is then, why did you buy a small keyboard? :o)
> > Those key sizes are standardised. AFAIK the stardard key raster is 19 mm
> > per single-width key. So unless you chose a specifically down-scaled
> > product, it should be the same size as it’s ever been. What did you buy
> > anyways?
> Well, there's something different because it "feels" different.  I keep
> hitting keys to one side or the other mostly.  The only difference I can
> see,  the key caps are shorter than the old Dell QuietKey.  I suspect
> the key caps are twice as tall on the old Dell.  Also, the old Dell had
> more travel for each key press too.  I've used that old thing for over
> 20 years.  My old brain can't learn new tricks.  ROFL 
> 
> I been looking for a keyboard that is like the old Dell QuietKey but
> they either ridiculously expensive or are old Dell keyboards with the
> PS/2 connector like I already have.  Thought about buying a adapter so I
> can use the old Dell.  That would fix the problem. 
> 
> Now that I've proofed this thing half a dozen times and corrected a
> bunch of typos, let's hit send.  LOL  If I was a book writer, forget
> about it.  I'd retire.  o_-
> 
> Dale
> 
> :-)  :-) 

I suspect you were used to a membrane keyboard, or if it clickety-clacked 
noisily a mechanical switch keyboard, with full travel switches.  Now you have 
bought a low profile scissor switch keyboard, with tactile switches.  The 
distance between the keys is the same, but the travel and feel is different.

Over time you'd get used to the new switches, which require less effort and 
force.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Scripting KDE?

[Dale]

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Michael wrote:
> On Sunday, 18 August 2024 19:15:32 BST Dale wrote:
>>
>> Well, there's something different because it "feels" different.  I keep
>> hitting keys to one side or the other mostly.  The only difference I can
>> see,  the key caps are shorter than the old Dell QuietKey.  I suspect
>> the key caps are twice as tall on the old Dell.  Also, the old Dell had
>> more travel for each key press too.  I've used that old thing for over
>> 20 years.  My old brain can't learn new tricks.  ROFL 
>>
>> I been looking for a keyboard that is like the old Dell QuietKey but
>> they either ridiculously expensive or are old Dell keyboards with the
>> PS/2 connector like I already have.  Thought about buying a adapter so I
>> can use the old Dell.  That would fix the problem. 
>>
>> Now that I've proofed this thing half a dozen times and corrected a
>> bunch of typos, let's hit send.  LOL  If I was a book writer, forget
>> about it.  I'd retire.  o_-
>>
>> Dale
>>
>> :-)  :-) 
> I suspect you were used to a membrane keyboard, or if it clickety-clacked 
> noisily a mechanical switch keyboard, with full travel switches.  Now you have 
> bought a low profile scissor switch keyboard, with tactile switches.  The 
> distance between the keys is the same, but the travel and feel is different.
>
> Over time you'd get used to the new switches, which require less effort and 
> force.


That's likely true.  It does feel weird.  It's not as loud as those
really old IBM keyboards like from the 80's and 90's.  It made some
noise just not as much as those.  Sometimes I'm pressing a key and don't
even know it.  Then I end up with several of the same characters in a
row.  Others times, I hit a key next to the one I want to push.  When
searching around, I found lots of other posts about people missing those
old Dell QuietKey keyboards.  I'm not alone. 

It's annoying as heck.  I spend twice as much time correcting typos than
I do actually typing something in.  My typing was bad enough already.  LOL 

I did my update a bit ago.  The tree sure didn't change much on the past
week or so.  Less bugs maybe.  We can always hope. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 

P. S.  Watered some trees today.  Getting kinda dry here.  Hoping for a
good acorn crop.  The deer are too.  There was no acorns last year. 
Lots of people lots their shrubs and stuff.  They gotta eat.  ;-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Scripting KDE?

[Michael]

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On Monday, 19 August 2024 00:12:27 BST Dale wrote:
> Michael wrote:
> > On Sunday, 18 August 2024 19:15:32 BST Dale wrote:
> >> Well, there's something different because it "feels" different.  I keep
> >> hitting keys to one side or the other mostly.  The only difference I can
> >> see,  the key caps are shorter than the old Dell QuietKey.  I suspect
> >> the key caps are twice as tall on the old Dell.  Also, the old Dell had
> >> more travel for each key press too.  I've used that old thing for over
> >> 20 years.  My old brain can't learn new tricks.  ROFL
> >> 
> >> I been looking for a keyboard that is like the old Dell QuietKey but
> >> they either ridiculously expensive or are old Dell keyboards with the
> >> PS/2 connector like I already have.  Thought about buying a adapter so I
> >> can use the old Dell.  That would fix the problem.
> >> 
> >> Now that I've proofed this thing half a dozen times and corrected a
> >> bunch of typos, let's hit send.  LOL  If I was a book writer, forget
> >> about it.  I'd retire.  o_-
> >> 
> >> Dale
> >> 
> >> :-)  :-)
> > 
> > I suspect you were used to a membrane keyboard, or if it clickety-clacked
> > noisily a mechanical switch keyboard, with full travel switches.  Now you
> > have bought a low profile scissor switch keyboard, with tactile switches.
> >  The distance between the keys is the same, but the travel and feel is
> > different.
> > 
> > Over time you'd get used to the new switches, which require less effort
> > and
> > force.
> 
> That's likely true.  It does feel weird.  It's not as loud as those
> really old IBM keyboards like from the 80's and 90's.  It made some
> noise just not as much as those.  Sometimes I'm pressing a key and don't
> even know it.

Hmm ... perhaps you haven't bought a tactile keyboard after all?  These kind 
of keyboards provide a tactile bump at ~1/3 of the key travel to let you know 
you've activated a key.  Some have a more distinct feedback bump than others 
and low or especially the ultra-low profile keys with their less than 2mm 
total travel will hit the stop as soon as you press the key past the bump.


> Then I end up with several of the same characters in a row.  

The typing style for low profile keyboards is different to your old keyboard.  
You are not meant to rest your hands/fingers on the keyboard and then jump on 
the keys as if it were a mechanical typewriter.  Instead your fingers are 
meant to float over it.

However, what you're describing is key switch chatter.  Mechanical keyboard 
switches can suffer from this problem.  You depress a key once and once only, 
but it registers multiple inputs.  It can be *very* annoying!  There are some 
fixes for mechanical gaming keyboards, but if you have a new keyboard you'd be 
better off asking to RMA it.

If the chatter is not caused by the keyboard switches, then you could set a 
longer delay in your  Plasma SystemSettings > Input Devices > Keyboard to see 
if this ameliorates the multiple input problem.


> Others times, I hit a key next to the one I want to push.  When
> searching around, I found lots of other posts about people missing those
> old Dell QuietKey keyboards.  I'm not alone. 

We had the old RT7D5JTW Dell keyboards at work.  These were high quality 
keyboards made in Thailand, as opposed to China.  If I recall correctly, they 
had the rubber dome over membrane key switches with a slider mechanism.  
Despite the physical abuse they received by ex-type writer users they survived 
even when the odd cup of tea was spilled over them!  You had to turn them over 
immediately and let them dry overnight.

https://deskthority.net/wiki/Rubber_dome


> It's annoying as heck.  I spend twice as much time correcting typos than
> I do actually typing something in.  My typing was bad enough already.  LOL 

It may be worth heading to a store to try different types of keyboard to find 
the one your fingers like best.

Or, you could buy an adaptor to connect your PS/2 old keyboard to a USB port.  
Careful though, some really cheap PS/2 to USB adaptors are only good for a PS/
2 mouse and won't work with a keyboard.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Scripting KDE?

[Waldo Lemmer]

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On Mon, Aug 19, 2024, 11:12 Michael <confabulate@kintzios.com> wrote:

> > Then I end up with several of the same characters in a row.
>
> The typing style for low profile keyboards is different to your old
> keyboard.
> You are not meant to rest your hands/fingers on the keyboard and then jump
> on
> the keys as if it were a mechanical typewriter.  Instead your fingers are
> meant to float over it.
>
> However, what you're describing is key switch chatter.  Mechanical
> keyboard
> switches can suffer from this problem.  You depress a key once and once
> only,
> but it registers multiple inputs.  It can be *very* annoying!  There are
> some
> fixes for mechanical gaming keyboards, but if you have a new keyboard
> you'd be
> better off asking to RMA it.
>

I believe this is just Dale holding the keys for longer than the key repeat
delay, causing them to repeat. I doubt this is a hardware problem.

>

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Re: [gentoo-user] Scripting KDE?

[Dale]

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Waldo Lemmer wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 19, 2024, 11:12 Michael <confabulate@kintzios.com
> <mailto:confabulate@kintzios.com>> wrote:
>
>     > Then I end up with several of the same characters in a row. 
>
>     The typing style for low profile keyboards is different to your
>     old keyboard. 
>     You are not meant to rest your hands/fingers on the keyboard and
>     then jump on
>     the keys as if it were a mechanical typewriter.  Instead your
>     fingers are
>     meant to float over it.
>
>     However, what you're describing is key switch chatter.  Mechanical
>     keyboard
>     switches can suffer from this problem.  You depress a key once and
>     once only,
>     but it registers multiple inputs.  It can be *very* annoying! 
>     There are some
>     fixes for mechanical gaming keyboards, but if you have a new
>     keyboard you'd be
>     better off asking to RMA it.
>
>
> I believe this is just Dale holding the keys for longer than the key
> repeat delay, causing them to repeat. I doubt this is a hardware problem.
>

The old keyboard requires a little more push to make it type the
letter.  Plus, it has a little click to it so you get feedback.  This
thing, makes almost no noise at all.  It's hard to tell if a key is
pressed or not, whether you are trying or not too.  I failed typing ages
ago.  My Mom also wanted me to play the piano.  That didn't work well
either.  Heck, sometimes what is in my brain just doesn't make it to the
keyboard.  When I proof something, I'm not just looking for typos.  I'm
looking for, does what I type make sense??  I try to keep in mind that
while I know what I'm talking about; seeing, hearing or whatever, the
other person on the receiving end of a email doesn't have that knowledge
except what I type in.  It's why I mention something then describe it
unless I know the person on the other end knows what I'm talking about. 
It's why I hate when they change what something is called when it really
hasn't changed.  Pick a name, stick with it.  We get confused enough
without changing the names of things.  It's also the reason my emails
can get lengthy. 

Part of the problem, I can't feel a keyboard when I'm searching online. 
I wish there was a showroom somewhere close that I could go type on lots
of different keyboards.  Heck, just a few clicks would be enough.  Right
now, I have a Dell KB212-B keyboard.  I've used it during the NAS box
install and such before.  It was annoying then.  Having it on my main
rig where I do a lot of typing, I want to use it for target practice to
put it out of *MY* misery.  The old keyboard is a Dell QuietKey
RT7D5JTW.  I don't see a date anywhere on the thing.  It is likely one
of the first keyboards I had and could be more than 20 years old, 30
years wouldn't surprise me either.  I do take compressed air and blow
out my keyboards on occasion.  I don't allow drinks of any kind around
my puter either.  I don't think I've ever had a keyboard to actually
stop working before. 

One of the keyboards I liked most besides the old Dell QuietKey, the
ones that came with old Wyse 50 and 60 terminals.  Those things had
mechanical key switches.  When customers would spill coke or something
in them and bring them to us for repair, I'd soak them in alcohol to
clean them and then lay it upside down on top of the air conditioner
condenser where there is lots of air flow and heat to dry the alcohol. 
Once dry, it works fine again.  Those were some awesome keyboards. 
Great feel and a nice click to let you know you hit a key.  Those were
the days.  LOL

So, it's me, not the keyboard.  Well, the keyboards works fine, it's
just me not liking the way it feels and sounds.  Until I bought these
new Dell keyboards, I didn't realize they were so different.  I might
add, I've never seen a laptop that I liked the keyboard on.  It's one
reason I won't buy one.  If the keyboard isn't bad enough, the little
thing that replaces the mouse really turns me off.  

Now if I could just find one with keys like my old Dell that didn't cost
a arm or leg. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Scripting KDE?

[Wols Lists]

On 19/08/2024 00:12, Dale wrote:
> It's annoying as heck.  I spend twice as much time correcting typos than 
> I do actually typing something in.  My typing was bad enough already.  LOL

I normally use an ergonomic keyboard (you know, the v-shaped version), 
and when I use the normal oblong one my fingers are always missing their 
target ...

Cheers,
Wol

Re: [gentoo-user] Scripting KDE?

[Dale]

Wols Lists wrote:
> On 19/08/2024 00:12, Dale wrote:
>> It's annoying as heck.  I spend twice as much time correcting typos
>> than I do actually typing something in.  My typing was bad enough
>> already.  LOL
>
> I normally use an ergonomic keyboard (you know, the v-shaped version),
> and when I use the normal oblong one my fingers are always missing
> their target ...
>
> Cheers,
> Wol
>
>


It's getting a little better, very slowly.  I just wrote a email about
email setup and it took me a while.  I had to fix a lot of typos and
most was copy and paste.  Honestly, I don't reply as much anymore.  It's
so annoying to type now and fixing typos makes it take a lot longer. 

I'm thinking about a PS/2 to USB adapter.  Go back to my old keyboard. 
;-)  Just give it a good cleaning first. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] Scripting KDE?

[Wol]

On 19/08/2024 14:15, Dale wrote:
> I might add, I've never seen a laptop that I liked the keyboard on. It's 
> one reason I won't buy one.  If the keyboard isn't bad enough, the 
> little thing that replaces the mouse really turns me off.

That's why I always use my laptops with an external mouse and keyboard - 
well, I would do on my linux laptop if it didn't keep wiping the dongle 
memory.

Also on Windows at least, there's a setting that disables that awful 
keypad if a mouse is attached. The problem is, it only looks for a mouse 
dingle, so if I plug in a keyboard (and no mouse), it still disables the 
trackpad so you're down a mousehole ...

Cheers,
Wol

Re: [gentoo-user] Scripting KDE?

[Peter Humphrey]

On Saturday, 31 August 2024 20:03:45 BST Dale wrote:

> I'm thinking about a PS/2 to USB adapter.  Go back to my old keyboard. 
> ;-)  Just give it a good cleaning first. 

It'll be the best fourpence-halfpenny you've ever spent...

:)

-- 
Regards,
Peter.