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To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org References: <5799968.DvuYhMxLoT@cube> <17d4e477-44f3-5753-7e1f-c757ed5d266b@gmail.com> <4939706.GXAFRqVoOG@rogueboard> From: Dale Autocrypt: addr=rdalek1967@gmail.com; prefer-encrypt=mutual; keydata= mQINBGFSciYBEADcEGMyJBSuavKO/XKUVvgkxck7Nl8Iuu8N2lcnRji/rSKg5c1Acix1ll9i oW8JBCHwvn0+Xy60BvEsqcup3YSHw5STl/bR1ePEehtnYrg8FdjdS91+B805RfnKMm69rFVI wLSBHQrSG1yxHd8CloWoEdhmVtP24buajbh114bgXd9ahtpZrCVMrWdWYUg2mEXguGV5uNAh Rf8SWxDNc79w24JxsV34a8niMUYMjzWr0rafIbzk732X38vGjVMLo/2mMpkbp9mPp++LHoY+ 0Pet8zxxdXPJSCd475kza1AD+hhSyBZXB9yknYWgyY3cZe1rGmooJSi2KX4QxO7npwLThcO1 be6KKRkd35+Fi/a1BzVOHsZMiK/gcwxEFoMd27gir4ehaeHJfFXl+65w4hj0EsOZSxrJrm2C R50g5By2czSKP1bADEygFNpIJj51AR+wM88NImG2RPtlT2maYBzazvF05g65cdHXGp1C7W5P wwwKU2DgABB2t7N7z5A69LnryBRw4zUYDRRYLTYlBlYgg+xILm2c0OrBdxJgLJa7JE50Eo25 d3PFwt9J0gYvqy6sPFLl9So0sDg9zm0hKQtXOP5kgropUFGrNoJI+mjwF4rYLRBVzZwNAvlO OhEvHubBo3mEllv4x+FeptwXZxlk7gUsdqI8AxnFB8K9wi6FVQARAQABtBtEYWxlIDxyZGFs ZWsxOTY3QGdtYWlsLmNvbT6JAk4EEwEIADgCGyMFCwkIBwIGFQoJCAsCBBYCAwECHgECF4AW IQQSG1h01ruv/WNXc3Q3RqOgiQH1GwUCYVJy8gAKCRA3RqOgiQH1G+waEACeTZCt77jnRAmQ AV7otKuZekDWiLi3Eig8tj5ZJiCNSYA/hIxzmexRP0GMqjitcXK1iGwWcvMzzvIq30GAjIfB 4BR38cnXbtBa6fNewiT7QaZe/Hn6yBRldXNQypzbHy+/o27bUEy+oX4rE7etUgEHQAjuw7xz XFWg4tH1/KJvsOVY5upnWc5LdxYhsuQ3dQD4b22GsK0pOBDfb9PiirYM8eGKvrVuq4E/c75z lDDFhINl18lNZ9D0ZFL3IkTjHsAAqFH9uhnnEB8CWdHbBewPEfRaOhBUYWZ3Q8uTkmDgZT8q D9jlvLEdw7Nh2ApdxoepnI/4D+ql2Gr4DtH7SEPydr5gcf1Qr/2bXRb1hAYnIVcbncs/Bm3Z bkRKPVWMfE3Fusa+p5hMzixk0YysMaTHlc7mYRYAEZGnPMXnmcCbetwARU7A0yz1M1kCMOAQ Lsz8KH5kv3cRenMB6SFfjND2JfAK61H5TtnPq3L8noS2ZykRYxq9Nm3X64O1tJojIKBoZFr8 AwYNCvqC6puUyGMuzHPh7jPof8glfrrEKIYUvNPGMDoVX3IGetxh/9l6NcxgFA4JGoR+LS3C zmeNrwlllAe3OEUfKoWVQ+pagpSdM+8hHolaSda4Ys66Z3fCR4ZvcTqfhTAVskpqdXa4isAk 7vTcXu3L499ttywEp7rJTbkCDQRhUnImARAAncUdVhmtRr59zqpTUppKroQYlzR0jv8oa7DG K4gakTAT2N7evnI9wpssmzyVk8VEiLzhnFQ/Ol3FRt6hZCXDJt0clyHOyTfvz/MNFttWuZTc mLpSvmRR6VRjAH+Tz3Eam2xUw3PGuH97BcXQ3NnX3msv1UDxtxxBu6e2YrdeOhrCUSgzokcJ 98ChUNy934cgepPybAI12lSWqVFQ1aG7jExZfiUk+333fPSDbpKoZbTW5YJLXbycmW/C1IWL qYQyNjRWKaGoJtUWFhhmNiOQct7n90aKivNVPavmN+UQ9LlMaINtf9T6XCzLfogCFsulDCDJ 0yNQLDTurHaB4E71xoctgXmLLq9z1RQ0W2XiVAAOZQj6K3+d0AOUjDhCQ2QW8dUSq0ckkZXV DKVJOGS8Nhf2eIWIqRnP3AcUiiaiFGqUaVUmUAZ6h/oJmgghEu/1S+pcuUKU5i69+XCZ3hH2 Jzwzbf7K+FAIkOhCfHncF8i1N1pk00pOVykNnqHTfFo3qFusHt0ZWgXVnnn4pYdXqZNoDhvF BRE5Vm4k/k96Pw8HRx6Os6eFSRrlqGzRgqsu86FekxusXB9UGv4lJhtU/J+8MRWsh22K718s DbQnABicGKFz1qQlWvcf59oTByhLINJCBt1WXl+TzJDXepr3QSkqmK41dO9Hob97C9dMiK8A EQEAAYkCNgQYAQgAIAIbDBYhBBIbWHTWu6/9Y1dzdDdGo6CJAfUbBQJhUnLyAAoJEDdGo6CJ AfUbVHIQAKSWw620vPhR3A/njU2z77F3z/Jk+HTKdE3fIyWSWdkYN7CBFL0NguOMP30WZ+qE sJhZu7T5hf251MwQUUt27xlfnKYOmQs7CqONlXuXlGZI6WufrUjxNcVz+5gJsqvUWuuJWsgg sDmE92IBnfG/f81fPHWQyfr/SF4wYDMyoFp5xCCQpp1zB63iuFvvrhxBkEHzmbRtVDOhl0Xp BVEDR1w3QRACw9QJD/KM05Czv9JNQYlwinWO/OaQ9cMlUpKLgswUPg9IZ5vucxScfuAUA5uC B1jlAQ8ZPlVukBmbEv5RGOv+lpuEbA3YDMVtEeH4YMFbjt/+vH3Cr2vTbp5JlpByLburJEH0 WXZLUawEfUsZvVwpOuJK75vaa2HYXee+Cb3iCIzwfIfctdlqzUcbGRczlRNM59hpvj4z29Gh 3kAxVHItAYq54ikxQ9l4hQ8s9sLYPbX/WtcBxNX8crBSw0FLnmzGleVEtBHyqtt5CLzQNgrj GYWl1vKDUmRPw1CdZ1c+fMN9CY11jOM5B5ZnqZWfDeVYO2iJ5SuvTycChexCb8WYn1bdCBIo bBtga2RBXbVt4Mh9E4owsszefn51MwfjXxB20Fc5k3GU1AVpTCMs3ayYCzo0b2pvEvdjtDcA CYLEFPWgaFX9iQAM/CDfKvTtvgGWpqtCL2raq/mQoJEU Message-ID: Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2024 18:12:27 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/91.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.18.1 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4939706.GXAFRqVoOG@rogueboard> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------C693790D36C0D2934FD35828" X-Archives-Salt: 8aadda95-aa23-477a-9a95-867be9e20405 X-Archives-Hash: 01511cfdea95366dd6244b867e30b6c5 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------C693790D36C0D2934FD35828 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Michael wrote: > On Sunday, 18 August 2024 19:15:32 BST Dale wrote: >> >> Well, there's something different because it "feels" different. I keep >> hitting keys to one side or the other mostly. The only difference I can >> see, the key caps are shorter than the old Dell QuietKey. I suspect >> the key caps are twice as tall on the old Dell. Also, the old Dell had >> more travel for each key press too. I've used that old thing for over >> 20 years. My old brain can't learn new tricks. ROFL >> >> I been looking for a keyboard that is like the old Dell QuietKey but >> they either ridiculously expensive or are old Dell keyboards with the >> PS/2 connector like I already have. Thought about buying a adapter so I >> can use the old Dell. That would fix the problem. >> >> Now that I've proofed this thing half a dozen times and corrected a >> bunch of typos, let's hit send. LOL If I was a book writer, forget >> about it. I'd retire. o_- >> >> Dale >> >> :-) :-) > I suspect you were used to a membrane keyboard, or if it clickety-clacked > noisily a mechanical switch keyboard, with full travel switches. Now you have > bought a low profile scissor switch keyboard, with tactile switches. The > distance between the keys is the same, but the travel and feel is different. > > Over time you'd get used to the new switches, which require less effort and > force. That's likely true.  It does feel weird.  It's not as loud as those really old IBM keyboards like from the 80's and 90's.  It made some noise just not as much as those.  Sometimes I'm pressing a key and don't even know it.  Then I end up with several of the same characters in a row.  Others times, I hit a key next to the one I want to push.  When searching around, I found lots of other posts about people missing those old Dell QuietKey keyboards.  I'm not alone.  It's annoying as heck.  I spend twice as much time correcting typos than I do actually typing something in.  My typing was bad enough already.  LOL  I did my update a bit ago.  The tree sure didn't change much on the past week or so.  Less bugs maybe.  We can always hope.  Dale :-)  :-)  P. S.  Watered some trees today.  Getting kinda dry here.  Hoping for a good acorn crop.  The deer are too.  There was no acorns last year.  Lots of people lots their shrubs and stuff.  They gotta eat.  ;-) --------------C693790D36C0D2934FD35828 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Michael wrote:
On Sunday, 18 August 2024 19:15:32 BST Dale wrote:

Well, there's something different because it "feels" different.  I keep
hitting keys to one side or the other mostly.  The only difference I can
see,  the key caps are shorter than the old Dell QuietKey.  I suspect
the key caps are twice as tall on the old Dell.  Also, the old Dell had
more travel for each key press too.  I've used that old thing for over
20 years.  My old brain can't learn new tricks.  ROFL 

I been looking for a keyboard that is like the old Dell QuietKey but
they either ridiculously expensive or are old Dell keyboards with the
PS/2 connector like I already have.  Thought about buying a adapter so I
can use the old Dell.  That would fix the problem. 

Now that I've proofed this thing half a dozen times and corrected a
bunch of typos, let's hit send.  LOL  If I was a book writer, forget
about it.  I'd retire.  o_-

Dale

:-)  :-) 
I suspect you were used to a membrane keyboard, or if it clickety-clacked 
noisily a mechanical switch keyboard, with full travel switches.  Now you have 
bought a low profile scissor switch keyboard, with tactile switches.  The 
distance between the keys is the same, but the travel and feel is different.

Over time you'd get used to the new switches, which require less effort and 
force.


That's likely true.  It does feel weird.  It's not as loud as those really old IBM keyboards like from the 80's and 90's.  It made some noise just not as much as those.  Sometimes I'm pressing a key and don't even know it.  Then I end up with several of the same characters in a row.  Others times, I hit a key next to the one I want to push.  When searching around, I found lots of other posts about people missing those old Dell QuietKey keyboards.  I'm not alone. 

It's annoying as heck.  I spend twice as much time correcting typos than I do actually typing something in.  My typing was bad enough already.  LOL 

I did my update a bit ago.  The tree sure didn't change much on the past week or so.  Less bugs maybe.  We can always hope. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 

P. S.  Watered some trees today.  Getting kinda dry here.  Hoping for a good acorn crop.  The deer are too.  There was no acorns last year.  Lots of people lots their shrubs and stuff.  They gotta eat.  ;-)
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