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Time to add more space, soon anyway. I try not to go past 90%. Anyway, I was looking at hard drives and noticed something new. I think I saw one a while back but didn't look into it at the time. I'm looking at 18TB drives, right now. Some new Seagate drives have dual actuators. Basically, they have two sets of heads. In theory, if circumstances are right, it could read data twice as fast. Of course, most of the time that won't be the case but it can happen often enough to make it get data a little faster. Even a 25% or 30% increase gives Seagate something to brag about. Another sales tool. Some heavy data users wouldn't mind either. My question is this. Given they cost about $20 more, from what I've found anyway, is it worth it? Is there a downside to this new set of heads being added? I'm thinking a higher failure rate, more risk to data or something like that. I think this is a fairly new thing, last couple years or so maybe. We all know how some new things don't work out. Just looking for thoughts and opinions, facts if someone has some. Failure rate compared to single actuator drives if there is such data. My searched didn't help me find anything useful. Thanks. Dale :-) :-) P. S. My greens are growing like weeds. Usually they ready to pick by now but having to wait for the tree to be cut down and cut up delayed that. Should be ready by Christmas, I hope. Oh, planted oats, clover, kale and some other extra seeds I had in open area. I saw a LARGE buck deer the other night snacking on the oats. My neighbor would rather see it in his freezer tho. o_0