[gentoo-user] xfce4 upgrade

[gentoo-user] xfce4 upgrade

[Douglas Linford]

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Good Day All,

I just upgraded xfce4 to 4.4, and the base emerge was successful, but when I
try to emerge the xfce4-extras, I get the following output:

*************************************************************************************************
iDeq ~ # emerge -pv xfce4-extras

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[blocks B     ] xfce-extra/xfce4-windowlist (is blocking
xfce-base/libxfce4util-4.4.0-r1)
[blocks B     ] xfce-extra/xfce4-showdesktop (is blocking
xfce-base/libxfce4util-4.4.0-r1)
[blocks B     ] xfce-extra/xfce4-taskbar (is blocking
xfce-base/libxfce4util-4.4.0-r1)
[blocks B     ] <xfce-base/xfce4-panel-4.4 (is blocking
xfce-base/libxfcegui4-4.4.0)
[blocks B     ] xfce-extra/xfce4-minicmd (is blocking
xfce-base/libxfce4util-4.4.0-r1)

[ebuild  N    ] xfce-extra/xfce4-notes-0.10.0-r1  USE="-debug -doc" 0 kB
[ebuild     UD] xfce-base/libxfce4util-4.2.3.2 [4.4.0-r1] USE="-doc
(-debug%)" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] xfce-extra/xfce4-windowlist-0.1.0-r1  USE="-debug -doc" 0 kB

[ebuild  N    ] xfce-extra/xfce4-systemload-0.3.6  USE="-debug -doc" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] xfce-extra/xfce4-netload-0.3.2  USE="-debug -doc" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] xfce-extra/xfce4-taskbar-0.2.2-r1  USE="-debug -doc" 0 kB
[ebuild     UD] xfce-base/libxfcegui4-4.2.3 [4.4.0] USE="(-debug%) (-doc%)
(-startup-notification%)" 0 kB
[ebuild     UD] xfce-base/libxfce4mcs-4.2.3 [4.4.0] USE="(-debug%) (-doc%)
(-startup-notification%)" 0 kB
[ebuild     UD] xfce-base/xfce-mcs-manager-4.2.3 [4.4.0] USE="(-debug%)" 0
kB
[ebuild     UD] xfce-base/xfce-mcs-plugins-4.2.3 [4.4.0] USE="(-debug%)" 0
kB
[ebuild     UD] xfce-base/xfce4-panel-4.2.3 [4.4.0] USE="(-debug%) (-doc%)
(-startup-notification%)" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] xfce-extra/xfce4-clipman-0.4.1-r2  0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] xfce-extra/xfce4-minicmd-0.3.0-r1  0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] xfce-extra/xfce4-battery-0.3.0-r2  0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] xfce-extra/xfce4-cpugraph-0.2.2-r2  0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] xfce-extra/xfce4-showdesktop-0.4.0-r2  0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] xfce-base/xfce4-extras-4.2.3.2  0 kB

Total: 17 packages (6 downgrades, 11 new, 5 blocks), Size of downloads: 0 kB
iDeq ~ #
*********************************************************************************************************

I unmerged the listed blocks, but I got a message that portage could not
find xfce4-panel-4.4
So...I could not upgrade.
And what is with the downgrades?

Any ideas?

Thanks,
Douglas

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Re: [gentoo-user] xfce4 upgrade

[doug asherman]

Douglas Linford wrote:
> Good Day All,
> 
> I just upgraded xfce4 to 4.4, and the base emerge was successful, but
> when I try to emerge the xfce4-extras, I get the following output:
> 
> *************************************************************************************************
> 
> iDeq ~ # emerge -pv xfce4-extras
> 
> These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
> 
> Calculating dependencies... done!
> [blocks B     ] xfce-extra/xfce4-windowlist (is blocking

<< lots of stuff about blocks and downgrades deleted >>

> [ebuild  N    ] xfce-base/xfce4-extras-4.2.3.2  0 kB
> 
> Total: 17 packages (6 downgrades, 11 new, 5 blocks), Size of downloads:
> 
> I unmerged the listed blocks, but I got a message that portage could not
> find xfce4-panel-4.4
> So...I could not upgrade.
> And what is with the downgrades?

It looks like your system wants to emerge xfce-extras-4.2.3.2 instead of
xfce-extras-4.4.0-r1. If you put the line:

xfce-base/xfce4-extras

in your /etc/portage/package.keywords file, that should do the trick as
far as unmasking xfce4-extras-4.4. However, you'll still need to put the
dependencies for xfce4-extras in the package.keywords file. As far as I
can tell, these are:

xfce-extra/xfce4-mount
xfce-extra/xfce4-dict
xfce-extra/xfce4-taskmanager
xfce-extra/xfce4-screenshooter
xfce-extra/xfce4-quicklauncher
xfce-extra/xfce4-xkb
xfce-extra/xfce4-datetime
xfce-extra/xfce4-notes
xfce-extra/xfce4-fsguard
xfce-extra/xfce4-systemload
xfce-extra/xfce4-netload
xfce-extra/xfce4-cpugraph
xfce-extra/xfce4-timer
xfce-extra/xfce4-clipman
xfce-extra/xfce4-weather

What kind of dependency issues you might run into with these, I don't
know; I haven't actually installed the packages.

Good luck. Let us know how it turns out.

Doug

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[gentoo-user] Re: xfce4 upgrade

[Grant Edwards]

On 2007-02-19, Douglas Linford <drkrider@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Good Day All,
>
> I just upgraded xfce4 to 4.4, and the base emerge was successful, but when I
> try to emerge the xfce4-extras, I get the following output:
>
> *************************************************************************************************
> iDeq ~ # emerge -pv xfce4-extras
>
> These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
>
> Calculating dependencies... done!
> [blocks B     ] xfce-extra/xfce4-windowlist (is blocking
> xfce-base/libxfce4util-4.4.0-r1)

Yea, upgrading to XFCE 4.4 is a PITA.

The package structure/organization was changed completely, so
emerge gets confused.  It knows it can't install libxfce4util
because a bunch of older packages that were combined into
libxfce4util are still installed.  For whatever reason, emerge
doesn't know enough to remove the old packages.

I ended up removing all of the XFCE 4.2 packages with emerge -C.  

Only then was I able to emerge XFCE 4.4.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xfce4 upgrade

[Bo Ørsted Andresen]

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On Monday 19 February 2007 18:37:32 Grant Edwards wrote:
> > Calculating dependencies... done!
> > [blocks B     ] xfce-extra/xfce4-windowlist (is blocking
> > xfce-base/libxfce4util-4.4.0-r1)
>
> Yea, upgrading to XFCE 4.4 is a PITA.
>
> The package structure/organization was changed completely, so
> emerge gets confused.  It knows it can't install libxfce4util
> because a bunch of older packages that were combined into
> libxfce4util are still installed.  For whatever reason, emerge
> doesn't know enough to remove the old packages.

It's not a matter of emerge being confused or not knowing enough to remove the 
old packages. It's a matter of emerge not being permitted to remove any 
packages that temporarily break things without the user knowing about and 
permitting it first. So instead it aborts while informing the user about the 
block and allowing the user to make a decision.

In this particular case it's not even about anything needing to be removed (at 
least not anymore). It's simply that when accepting ~arch keywords for xfce4 
you need to accept ~arch keywords for xfce4-extras too for them to be 
compatible.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xfce4 upgrade

[Douglas Linford]

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Well, It is getting more confusing....
I can't seem to unmerge everything for xfce4 in order to start over.

In typing this command, I get:

iDeq ~ # emerge -pv xfce4-extras

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies \!!! Manifest file not found:
'/usr/local/overlays/ebuildexchange/xfce-base/xfce4-panel/Manifest'
 \!!! Manifest file not found:
'/usr/local/overlays/ebuildexchange/xfce-base/xfdesktop/Manifest'
 \!!! Manifest file not found:
'/usr/local/overlays/ebuildexchange/xfce-base/xfce-utils/Manifest'
... done!
[blocks B     ] xfce-extra/xfce4-windowlist (is blocking
xfce-base/libxfce4util-4.4.0-r1)
[blocks B     ] xfce-extra/xfce4-showdesktop (is blocking
xfce-base/libxfce4util-4.4.0-r1)
[blocks B     ] xfce-extra/xfce4-systray (is blocking
xfce-base/libxfce4util-4.4.0-r1)
[blocks B     ] <xfce-base/xfce-utils-4.4 (is blocking xfce-base/xfce4-
panel-4.4.0)
[blocks B     ] xfce-extra/xfcalendar (is blocking xfce-base/libxfce4util-
4.4.0-r1, xfce-base/orage-4.4.0)
[blocks B     ] xfce-extra/xfce4-toys (is blocking xfce-base/libxfce4util-
4.4.0-r1)
[blocks B     ] xfce-extra/xfce4-trigger-launcher (is blocking
xfce-base/libxfce4util-4.4.0-r1)
[blocks B     ] xfce-base/xffm (is blocking xfce-base/libxfce4util-4.4.0-r1)
[blocks B     ] xfce-extra/xfce4-iconbox (is blocking
xfce-base/libxfce4util-4.4.0-r1)
[blocks B     ] xfce-extra/xfce4-taskbar (is blocking
xfce-base/libxfce4util-4.4.0-r1)
[blocks B     ] <xfce-base/xfce4-panel-4.4 (is blocking
xfce-base/libxfcegui4-4.4.0)
[blocks B     ] xfce-extra/xfce4-minicmd (is blocking
xfce-base/libxfce4util-4.4.0-r1)
[ebuild  N    ] xfce-extra/xfce4-notes-0.10.0-r1  USE="-debug -doc" 0 kB
[ebuild     UD] xfce-base/libxfce4util-4.2.3.2 [4.4.0-r1] USE="-doc
(-debug%)" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] xfce-extra/xfce4-windowlist-0.1.0-r1  USE="-debug -doc" 0 kB

[ebuild  N    ] xfce-extra/xfce4-systemload-0.3.6  USE="-debug -doc" 0 kB
[ebuild     UD] xfce-extra/xfce4-icon-theme-4.2.3 [4.4.0] 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] xfce-extra/xfce4-systray-4.2.3  0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] xfce-extra/xfce4-netload-0.3.2  USE="-debug -doc" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] xfce-extra/xfce4-taskbar-0.2.2-r1  USE="-debug -doc" 0 kB
[ebuild     UD] xfce-base/libxfcegui4-4.2.3 [4.4.0] USE="(-debug%) (-doc%)
(-startup-notification%)" 0 kB
[ebuild     UD] xfce-base/libxfce4mcs-4.2.3 [4.4.0] USE="(-debug%) (-doc%)
(-startup-notification%)" 0 kB
[ebuild     UD] xfce-base/xfce-mcs-manager-4.2.3 [4.4.0] USE="(-debug%)" 0
kB
[ebuild     UD] xfce-extra/xfce4-appfinder-4.2.3 [4.4.0] USE="(-debug%)" 0
kB
[ebuild     UD] xfce-base/xfce-mcs-plugins-4.2.3 [4.4.0] USE="(-debug%)" 0
kB
[ebuild     UD] xfce-base/xfwm4-4.2.3.2 [4.4.0] USE="(-debug%)
(-startup-notification%) (-xcomposite%)" 0 kB
[ebuild     UD] xfce-base/xfce-utils-4.2.3 [4.4.0-r2] USE="-gtkhtml%
(-dbus%*) (-debug%)" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] xfce-base/xffm-4.2.3  USE="-samba" 0 kB
[ebuild     UD] xfce-base/xfce4-panel-4.2.3 [4.4.0] USE="(-debug%) (-doc%)
(-startup-notification%)" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] xfce-extra/xfwm4-themes-4.2.3  0 kB
[ebuild     UD] xfce-base/xfce4-session-4.2.3 [4.4.0] USE="(-dbus%*)
(-debug%) (-gnome%*)" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] xfce-extra/xfce4-clipman-0.4.1-r2  0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] xfce-extra/xfce4-minicmd-0.3.0-r1  0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] xfce-extra/xfcalendar-4.2.3  0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] xfce-extra/xfce4-mixer-4.2.3  USE="alsa" 0 kB
[ebuild     UD] xfce-base/xfdesktop-4.2.3 [4.4.0-r3] USE="(-dbus%*)
(-debug%) (-doc%) (-minimal%)" 0 kB
[ebuild     UD] xfce-base/xfprint-4.2.3 [4.4.0] USE="(-debug%) (-doc%)" 0 kB

[ebuild  N    ] xfce-extra/xfce4-toys-4.2.3  0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] xfce-extra/xfce4-iconbox-4.2.3  0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] xfce-extra/xfce4-trigger-launcher-4.2.3  0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] xfce-extra/xfce4-battery-0.3.0-r2  0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] xfce-extra/xfce4-cpugraph-0.2.2-r2  0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] xfce-extra/xfce4-showdesktop-0.4.0-r2  0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] xfce-base/xfce4-4.2.3.2  USE="-svg" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] xfce-base/xfce4-extras-4.2.3.2  0 kB

Total: 33 packages (13 downgrades, 20 new, 12 blocks), Size of downloads: 0
kB

When I try to unmerge the blocks, it says they can't be found.
What is the best way to clean up and unmerge all of xfce4 and start over?


Douglas


On 2/19/07, Bo Ørsted Andresen <bo.andresen@zlin.dk> wrote:
>
> On Monday 19 February 2007 18:37:32 Grant Edwards wrote:
> > > Calculating dependencies... done!
> > > [blocks B ] xfce-extra/xfce4-windowlist (is blocking
> > > xfce-base/libxfce4util-4.4.0-r1)
> >
> > Yea, upgrading to XFCE 4.4 is a PITA.
> >
> > The package structure/organization was changed completely, so
> > emerge gets confused. It knows it can't install libxfce4util
> > because a bunch of older packages that were combined into
> > libxfce4util are still installed. For whatever reason, emerge
> > doesn't know enough to remove the old packages.
>
> It's not a matter of emerge being confused or not knowing enough to remove
> the
> old packages. It's a matter of emerge not being permitted to remove any
> packages that temporarily break things without the user knowing about and
> permitting it first. So instead it aborts while informing the user about
> the
> block and allowing the user to make a decision.
>
> In this particular case it's not even about anything needing to be removed
> (at
> least not anymore). It's simply that when accepting ~arch keywords for
> xfce4
> you need to accept ~arch keywords for xfce4-extras too for them to be
> compatible.
>
> --
> Bo Andresen
>
>

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xfce4 upgrade

[Bo Ørsted Andresen]

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On Saturday 24 February 2007 04:54:21 Douglas Linford wrote:
> [ebuild  N    ] xfce-base/xfce4-extras-4.2.3.2  0 kB

Did you even read the replies up until now?

# emerge -pv \>=xfce-base/xfce4-extras-4.4

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xfce4 upgrade

[Douglas Linford]

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Kinda testy there Mr. Bo....yes I did read the replies...


On 2/23/07, Bo Ørsted Andresen <bo.andresen@zlin.dk> wrote:
>
> On Saturday 24 February 2007 04:54:21 Douglas Linford wrote:
> > [ebuild N ] xfce-base/xfce4-extras-4.2.3.2 0 kB
>
> Did you even read the replies up until now?
>
> # emerge -pv \>=xfce-base/xfce4-extras-4.4
>
> --
> Bo Andresen
>
>

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xfce4 upgrade

[Douglas Linford]

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iDeq ~ # emerge -pv \>=xfce-base/xfce4-extras-4.4

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies |
!!! All ebuilds that could satisfy ">=xfce-base/xfce4-extras-4.4" have been
masked.
!!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your
request:
- xfce-base/xfce4-extras-4.4.0-r1 (masked by: ~x86 keyword)

For more information, see MASKED PACKAGES section in the emerge man page or
refer to the Gentoo Handbook.

On 2/23/07, Douglas Linford <drkrider@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Kinda testy there Mr. Bo....yes I did read the replies...
>
>
> On 2/23/07, Bo Ørsted Andresen <bo.andresen@zlin.dk > wrote:
> >
> > On Saturday 24 February 2007 04:54:21 Douglas Linford wrote:
> > > [ebuild N ] xfce-base/xfce4- extras-4.2.3.2 0 kB
> >
> > Did you even read the replies up until now?
> >
> > # emerge -pv \>=xfce-base/xfce4-extras-4.4
> >
> > --
> > Bo Andresen
> >
> >
>

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xfce4 upgrade

[Bo Ørsted Andresen]

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Reordered for readability..

On Saturday 24 February 2007 05:40:52 Douglas Linford wrote:
> > > Did you even read the replies up until now?
> >
> > Kinda testy there Mr. Bo....yes I did read the replies...

I guess you just didn't understand much of it then...

> > > # emerge -pv \>=xfce-base/xfce4-extras-4.4
>
> iDeq ~ # emerge -pv \>=xfce-base/xfce4-extras-4.4
>
> These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
>
> Calculating dependencies |
> !!! All ebuilds that could satisfy ">=xfce-base/xfce4-extras-4.4" have been
> masked.
> !!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your
> request:
> - xfce-base/xfce4-extras-4.4.0-r1 (masked by: ~x86 keyword)
>
> For more information, see MASKED PACKAGES section in the emerge man page or
> refer to the Gentoo Handbook.

Since you didn't make any effort to explain what's so hard to understand I'll
just point you to the relevant section in the handbook [1].

And please stop top-posting (shamelessly copied from one of Boyd's posts..):

A: It reverses the reading order of the conversation.
Q: Why's top-posting so bad?
A: Top-posting and insufficient quote trimming.
Q: What's the most annoying thing on mailing lists and USENET?

[1] http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=3&chap=3#doc_chap2

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[OT] Shamelessly copied (was: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xfce4 upgrade)

[Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.]

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On Sunday 25 February 2007, Bo Ørsted Andresen <bo.andresen@zlin.dk> wrote 
about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xfce4 upgrade':
> And please stop top-posting (shamelessly copied from one of Boyd's
> posts..):

I shamelessly copied it from someone else [*], so I don't really deserve 
the credit.  I thought it was one of the Neils that first posted it (at 
least to the gentoo-* lists).

> A: It reverses the reading order of the conversation.
> Q: Why's top-posting so bad?
> A: Top-posting and insufficient quote trimming.
> Q: What's the most annoying thing on mailing lists and USENET?

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