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From: "Rob Rutherford" <rlrutherford@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo gets as bad SuSE: Circular dependencies [WAS: Thank you Gentoo devs]
Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 12:34:26 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ef399e0a0705160934n77a795d5y655b72c149088b47@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070516154736.GA18410@nibiru.local>

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On 5/16/07, Enrico Weigelt <weigelt@metux.de> wrote:
>
> Which problem from the upstream ?
> I'm a little bit involved in Xorg development (especially on the
> modularizing project), so if you tell me the problem, I could fix it.
>
> The problem w/ x11-base/xorg-server are the PDEPENDs on (external)
> driver packages. I dont see any valid reason for depending the
> Xserver on drivers, which themselfes depend on the Xserver.
>
> If you want some package which pulls in an complete Xserver installation
> *and* drivers (based on certain useflags), why not just an virtual
> package ?
>
> IMHO, there were days where it had been done so (when PDEPEND did not
> yet exist). I don't know why this had changed, probably just to get
> an new feature widely used. (BTW: I do not see any valid reason for
> PDEPEND anyways)


Thanks, this was much more informative and useful than:

> I also want to say "Thank you" to the gentoo devs.
>
> Thank you for producing lots of circular dependencies
> (ie. in the Xserver), which make maintenance complicated.
>
> Cirular deps have been really sucking in SuSE and were one
> of the major for dropping it to me.
>
> Great, great thanks to the devs for forcing me to maintain my
> own overlay to clean up the crap. (anyone who's interested in
> it, please give a note).

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-05-16 16:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-05-04 10:37 [gentoo-user] xorg-7.2 and ati-drivers-8.32.5 Remy Blank
2007-05-07 13:12 ` marco restelli
     [not found]   ` <f1nd4o$17g$1@sea.gmane.org>
2007-05-07 14:37     ` [gentoo-user] " Remy Blank
2007-05-07 15:11       ` Francisco Rivas
2007-05-08 14:14         ` Dmitry
2007-05-08 14:35           ` Francisco Rivas
2007-05-07 14:53     ` Francisco Rivas
2007-05-07 16:09       ` Grant Edwards
2007-05-07 18:00         ` Francisco Rivas
2007-05-07 18:32           ` Grant Edwards
2007-05-07 18:44             ` Francisco Rivas
     [not found] ` <f2d5ap$t7j$1@sea.gmane.org>
2007-05-15 20:56   ` [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-7.2 and ati-drivers-8.32.5 - Thank you Gentoo devs Francisco Rivas
2007-05-16  5:44     ` Johannes Skov Frandsen
2007-05-16 12:51       ` Francisco Rivas
2007-05-16 12:59         ` Remy Blank
2007-05-16 14:23           ` [gentoo-user] Gentoo gets as bad SuSE: Circular dependencies [WAS: Thank you Gentoo devs] Enrico Weigelt
2007-05-16 14:54             ` Neil Bothwick
2007-05-16 15:47               ` Enrico Weigelt
2007-05-16 16:17                 ` Bo Ørsted Andresen
2007-05-17 15:46                   ` Enrico Weigelt
2007-05-16 16:34                 ` Rob Rutherford [this message]
2007-05-16 22:17                 ` Neil Bothwick
2007-05-17 13:44                   ` [OT] Jakub back? (was: Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo gets as bad SuSE: Circular dependencies [WAS: Thank you Gentoo devs]) Naga Toro
2007-05-17 13:59                     ` Bryan Østergaard
2007-05-17 16:03                   ` [gentoo-user] Gentoo gets as bad SuSE: Circular dependencies [WAS: Thank you Gentoo devs] Enrico Weigelt
2007-05-17 17:21                     ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
2007-05-18 10:29                     ` Neil Bothwick
2007-05-19  3:00                       ` Kent Fredric
2007-05-20 16:49                         ` Enrico Weigelt
2007-05-20 17:55                           ` Neil Bothwick
2007-05-30 15:43                             ` [gentoo-user] Re: Xserver @ oss-qm overlay [WAS: Gentoo gets as bad SuSE: Circular dependencies ...] Enrico Weigelt
2007-05-20 23:32                           ` [gentoo-user] Gentoo gets as bad SuSE: Circular dependencies [WAS: Thank you Gentoo devs] Neil Walker
2007-05-21  1:15                           ` kashani
2007-05-21  9:57                         ` Andrey Gerasimenko
2007-05-21 10:44                           ` Alan McKinnon
2007-05-21 11:15                           ` Hans-Werner Hilse
2007-05-16 22:51                 ` kashani
2007-05-16 23:08                   ` Iain Buchanan
2007-05-17 23:19                     ` Mark Shields
2007-05-16 15:51               ` Bo Ørsted Andresen
2007-05-16 22:04                 ` Neil Bothwick
2007-05-16 22:40                   ` Dale
2007-05-16 23:56                     ` Neil Bothwick
2007-05-17 16:10                 ` Enrico Weigelt
2007-05-17 17:20                   ` Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman
2007-05-17 20:40                     ` Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
2007-05-17 18:21                   ` Bo Ørsted Andresen
2007-05-16 21:31               ` Dan Farrell
2007-05-16 15:58             ` Francisco Rivas
2007-05-16 21:42             ` Jerry McBride
2007-05-16 21:57               ` Dale
2007-05-16 20:53   ` [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-7.2 and ati-drivers-8.32.5 - Thank you Gentoo devs Remy Blank
2007-05-16 21:01     ` Francisco Rivas
2007-05-17  8:39       ` [gentoo-user] Can't start apache Johannes Skov Frandsen
2007-05-17  9:00         ` Randy Barlow
2007-05-17  9:15           ` [gentoo-user] Can't start apache [solved] Johannes Skov Frandsen
2007-05-17 10:05             ` Johannes Skov Frandsen
2007-05-17 11:21               ` Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
2007-05-17 11:28                 ` Johannes Skov Frandsen
2007-05-17 12:33                   ` Johannes Skov Frandsen
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-05-18  4:56 [gentoo-user] Gentoo gets as bad SuSE: Circular dependencies [WAS: Thank you Gentoo devs] burlingk
2007-05-18 10:01 ` Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman
2007-05-18 17:35   ` Enrico Weigelt
2007-05-18 22:48 ` Neil Walker
2007-05-18 10:26 burlingk
2007-05-21  1:41 burlingk
2007-05-30 15:59 ` Enrico Weigelt

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