From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CBC7A138334 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2018 18:23:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1F4D7E09CB; Sun, 9 Dec 2018 18:23:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.21]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5E109E0992 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2018 18:23:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([194.59.251.179]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx102 [212.227.17.174]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LbxQO-1hD7j03t7k-00jH20 for ; Sun, 09 Dec 2018 19:23:11 +0100 From: "Taiidan@gmx.com" Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: CPU upgrade and LVM questions. To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org References: <492d8bf4-4b8d-f7f6-05d8-2473b6825fab@gmail.com> <6651f356-8831-1d49-6d1e-adbe9d337b74@charter.net> <234e7289-0372-64de-5a94-d1aa82c7d40b@charter.net> <288c83f0-70a5-98ec-b082-d575239f0c03@gmail.com> <0456c03c-8a4b-17b9-b062-e42580ed531f@gmail.com> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2018 13:23:07 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.7.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:hLF/fqddD3ym/KXURqlcOrndsfG6a/JSjWVYj3ojXQ4nzIwHzpL Fu8H01QR3IhUerGN6uGnWycYHhNMbXMaKE+KImJ5g6dTjHsOVupk6TPjI45uWmhK5Exwkxd kYjQ4OJC05pt8kYj/6PeiLEFhW3HDRAMlaETjiMQNpauuYRx0IBLNpqdw47WQAHv1SRb9Gt oAyFeXqArgZ4pp4i4oZDg== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:97sbzonnCE0=:WjcCSa1hK4vvpCJl0Jvahj /f8pIquXUTd8DULzxNMSnWJlWd7T1QnN+gZMBkrGQnnKmwNbs6m+3Tz3T7aOEEdeLA78qVoaB wbl0bw6ioCyjO7JYR8Q6cioZ42k/O74CAAA0bG087xdXBT9ssn+ouapeHFSD8lGFq04dEwMWp Tf8DXmwybm5HyCntzRK58Et4K0soLtWhBMm3Nw6oe/0Eo+S7hTQc40UN+4f6pWGQult2iZBH/ ejVqN1M/yC4bEgOSM/Vgy3dUD7EjznOsq52bLHuamspHgDCl/oz5r9cHFjFjF0uOKzaXN0Ujp FSV83+PgskQ9KuSyq0kKTkihUa17rW0GG1vYFl+qI7j2zgnT4IoNEmCfkjS8oIMu8kqa0lie/ WBd+V05ZNaueeLlmFpxZ0FwzGl+A3ZIHRroeEQkOkYShPA7XY2AXbMmRe0szwb8fJ/GXvYNca KiodEFIQnaj6SBE6bXwG9Jketu1Muvfz6XZrKFLHKJDWeKcyRgv/o6UU4rGRq9mVnaeLZgA4O MGY1HCrQbGGJMke+eoW3o8jIhBJn3oB0v335TbAWwQUn7CGz08HIzqD48IIg/XJ4t/LCQOtm+ G21eXbLrHj+lQLWq4OQ95uyKKlT8AMLW3LxRIWZULNEBC55mU8vQpM1TIir+pnM0NbyNu5iqv 9N37+GnlrHx4vBRFM7YyYw4QdRL/buCnBl4uvZj7/7/9v6IIfLfAX38y2M9gDPh3D5BhvGOoP q00tiNDJgz/h5uXtfqZR3GQSTL+aXLITYln4A70r3WJKqZffEgS3enCBYF95dAJv5rGgIE3oe nJumEM4qS4AFY1soGSdvhaOrH/T+IgIFeO0Vp7anQUH866QyVMWjd5244clZ+KioRznOAHstD WEX0FaIoPOON87pmq7TBPZ5GTqR1Pn5oiGmhWInfISP8TMCYtb5w1JRHhW8Y5F X-Archives-Salt: 273fe2ac-3bbb-4c76-b1d6-7abd096a368d X-Archives-Hash: 6ef99f4d5ccfd6a719e3bc95fa243374 On 12/07/2018 06:47 PM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 07/12/2018 09:30, Dale wrote: >> Nikos Chantziaras wrote: >>> If you want to see all of the installed packages that are affected, >>> you need to set CPU_FLAGS_X86 to an empty string: >>> >>>    CPU_FLAGS_X86="" >>> >>> and then do "emerge -puDN --with-bdeps=y @world". This is because >>> CPU_FLAGS_X86 is not empty by default. It contains sse and sse2 by >>> default, because these are supported by all 64-bit CPUs. >>> >> >> What I did, I commented out the whole line and ran it that way. > > If you comment it out, it will have default values. If you set it to an > empty string, you should be able to see which packages make use of the > default flags (like sse and sse2.) > > Note it's a pretend emerge (-p). Just to check which packages you have > installed that make use of these flags. > > >> One last question for anyone who has done this recently.  When finished, >> I'll have a FX-8350 CPU with 8 cores at 4.0/4.2GHz, 32GBs of memory all >> on a Gigabyte 970 series mobo.  Would there be any point in upgrading to >> a whole new rig or is what I have about as fast is reasonable to build? >> I don't do gaming or anything.  Even the GTX 650 video card is likely >> overkill for what I do here.  The older 200 series card is working just >> fine.  On one hand, my current build is several years old.  On the >> other, computers seem to have reached their peak.  I'm sure there is >> more powerful systems out there but would I be any better off with one? Since the AM3+ and its C32/G34 Opteron counterparts are the last and best x86 cpus without ME/PSP I would say you are better off with what you have - the best piledriver cpus like the FX-8350+ are still able to play the latest games and in a VM via IOMMU-GFX if you want. In any case I would consider a OpenPOWER (ppc64/ppc64le) arch system (like the blackbird or talos 2) as an upgrade path instead of any futher x86 stuff as there aren't any black boxes, there is documentation+firmware sources and the cpus are made in usa.