[gentoo-user] International locale

[gentoo-user] International locale

[Pupeno]

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Hello,
Is there some international locale that is not tied to any particular country 
(and uses ISO standards for dates, time, sizes, etc) ?
Something like en_INT.UTF-8 which may even be eo_INT.UTF-8 or jbo_INT.UTF-8 ?
Thanks.
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Re: [gentoo-user] International locale

[Benno Schulenberg]

Pupeno wrote:
> Is there some international locale

Sounds like a contradiction in terms to me.  :)

> that is not tied to any 
> particular country (and uses ISO standards for dates, time,
> sizes, etc) ?

What would it use for LC_MONETARY?

> Something like en_INT.UTF-8 which may even be eo_INT.UTF-8

Have you tried creating one yourself?  You know about eo_XX.txt?  

Benno

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[gentoo-user] Re: International locale

[Remy Blank]

Benno Schulenberg wrote:
> Pupeno wrote:
>> Is there some international locale
> 
> Sounds like a contradiction in terms to me.  :)

Not quite. I would like to have my computer completely in english, but I
hate the mm/dd/yy date format of en_US (and IIRC en_GB as well), so I
have to set LC_TIME to fr_CH, but then I have the day and month names in
french. I couldn't find an english locale that displays the date as
dd.mm.yyyy (though I didn't look for all too long).

>> that is not tied to any 
>> particular country (and uses ISO standards for dates, time,
>> sizes, etc) ?
> 
> What would it use for LC_MONETARY?

That's a valid point.

Creating one should not be all too difficult, as it would only involve
copying the preferred locale and modifying a few items. I haven't taken
the time to try it, though.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: International locale

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Tue, 05 Sep 2006 14:17:15 +0200, Remy Blank wrote:

> Not quite. I would like to have my computer completely in english, but I
> hate the mm/dd/yy date format of en_US (and IIRC en_GB as well)

en_GB uses dd/mm/yy


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: International locale

[Peter Ruskin]

On Tuesday 05 September 2006 13:17, Remy Blank wrote:
> Not quite. I would like to have my computer completely in
> english, but I hate the mm/dd/yy date format of en_US (and IIRC
> en_GB as well), so I have to set LC_TIME to fr_CH, but then I
> have the day and month names in french. I couldn't find an
> english locale that displays the date as dd.mm.yyyy (though I
> didn't look for all too long).

$ date
Tue Sep  5 14:02:19 BST 2006
$ echo $LC_TIME
en_GB.utf8

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[gentoo-user] Re: International locale

[Remy Blank]

Peter Ruskin wrote:
> On Tuesday 05 September 2006 13:17, Remy Blank wrote:
>> I couldn't find an
>> english locale that displays the date as dd.mm.yyyy (though I
>> didn't look for all too long).
> 
> $ date
> Tue Sep  5 14:02:19 BST 2006
> $ echo $LC_TIME
> en_GB.utf8

I meant:

$ LC_TIME=en_US date +%x
09/05/2006

But as Neil already pointed out, en_GB has it the other way round, i.e.
it would print 05/09/06 (I would still prefer 05.09.2006). I just
noticed fr_CH is bad, too: 05. 09. 06 (why do they have these spaces in
there?), de_CH is quite ok: 2006-09-05. But you still get the day and
month names in the respective languages.

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[gentoo-user] Re: International locale

[Michael Mauch]

Remy Blank wrote:

> Peter Ruskin wrote:
> > On Tuesday 05 September 2006 13:17, Remy Blank wrote:
> >> I couldn't find an
> >> english locale that displays the date as dd.mm.yyyy (though I
> >> didn't look for all too long).
> > 
> > $ date
> > Tue Sep  5 14:02:19 BST 2006
> > $ echo $LC_TIME
> > en_GB.utf8
> 
> I meant:
> 
> $ LC_TIME=en_US date +%x
> 09/05/2006
> 
> But as Neil already pointed out, en_GB has it the other way round, i.e.
> it would print 05/09/06 (I would still prefer 05.09.2006). I just
> noticed fr_CH is bad, too: 05. 09. 06 (why do they have these spaces in
> there?), de_CH is quite ok: 2006-09-05. But you still get the day and
> month names in the respective languages.

# egrep "^en" /usr/share/i18n/SUPPORTED >>/etc/locale.gen
# locale-gen
...

# locale -a|grep en|while read loc ; do 
   LC_TIME="$loc" date "+$loc: %A %x"; 
  done | grep Tuesday | grep 05.09.2006

en_BW: Tuesday 05/09/2006
en_BW.utf8: Tuesday 05/09/2006
en_ZA: Tuesday 05/09/2006
en_ZA.utf8: Tuesday 05/09/2006
en_ZW: Tuesday 05/09/2006
en_ZW.utf8: Tuesday 05/09/2006

Alas, no dots.

Regards...
		Michael
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