From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LRvPM-0003xL-GE for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 21:23:44 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DFA81E00C6; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 21:23:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com (rv-out-0708.google.com [209.85.198.242]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C228E00C6 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 21:23:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b17so7146494rvf.46 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 13:23:41 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=0h+nEZ3vjrQ7vYOd5tNWN1knoYXuT/XfRws69+KEF8w=; b=KPYmZHgQiy8MY/yYbug0CCihjimivCpYino5nbMYxXDVlqentBbG0vnuxwBvKlzcqA cySGYlCELtnGRLKcgCJugHbNIpdYsHxMnLBjGt164aTP7FZTmIU0NoiTvt0rRoEqtHEU rIrfHHe5Pl6STnSg7YtNvAs0AMtuFheONlkj4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=htxqlXWd/HzrGVikUJ0kuKUKjwW4C9VqrOFejfvrfqGy7/j0vQEv7Lt61KGPkxDznp nQ0x3Ak66ad6y3hwUXX5nvL318x8s37XJ7rnBo5xt9j1tyBgd1xz+dNz6CCbYml4vkbT vzfRrpBrj2dHm68/qNutewrv7hb3nRi3sJ+hI= Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: mryiff@googlemail.com Received: by 10.140.125.1 with SMTP id x1mr4652318rvc.265.1233091421175; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 13:23:41 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1233088701.24106.612.camel@brown.esteem.com> References: <1233088701.24106.612.camel@brown.esteem.com> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 21:23:41 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: ba9676e7a168472f Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo mail server From: Nick Cunningham To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd150a4227ed004617d7877 X-Archives-Salt: a7b6139e-15d7-4721-9112-fcb8d5ab32f8 X-Archives-Hash: e2115ffa023f9fbb160e2dc974373925 --000e0cd150a4227ed004617d7877 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 2009/1/27 Tom Brown > Hey guys, > > I've been using gentoo on my desktop for several months now. I works > great. It cut five minutes off my build time when I build our product > tree. It went from 20 to 15 minutes. > > I setup our email server using Debian. Its been solid as a rock and very > low maintenance. However, it provides an antiquated environment. > > I'm looking at using gentoo for the email so I'll have an up-to-date > system. Peformance is fine on the Debian system, but hey, faster is > always better. > > I was hoping you guys could give me warm fuzzies about stability and > maintenance with gentoo when it comes to a production server. > > What about major upgrades? If I keep the system updated regularly, is a > major upgrade necessary? > > Thanks! > Tom > > > > If your planning on running a stable server then managing a gentoo server is probably a bit more time intensive, but will pay of in terms of having it configured how *you* want and with the services *you* want running, not what someone else thinks you should have. As a rule of thumb dont run ~ARCH unless you absolutely need a certain package (and even then, stick to keyword specific versions rather than blindly keywording everything). Dont feel that you need to sync and update every day, but *do* use tools like glsa-check (i think thats the right one but im not in my gentoo isntall to check atm) to ensure you update programs where security bugs are known. Also its worth keeping an eye on things like the forums, and planet as often when updates to packages are likely to break things, or they need some manual intervention when updating, you see some signs of this in advance (although if you see a major update in your emerge list you *should* be stopping and going off to read up on it before blindly emerging). Of course, all these things wont stop you causing breakages, but if you work cautiously and have some idea of what your doing then gentoo does work very well as a server. - Nick --000e0cd150a4227ed004617d7877 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

2009/1/27 Tom Brown &l= t;brown@esteem.com>
Hey guys,

I've been using gentoo on my desktop for several months now. I works great. It cut five minutes off my build time when I build our product
tree. It went from 20 to 15 minutes.

I setup our email server using Debian. Its been solid as a rock and very low maintenance. However, it provides an antiquated environment.

I'm looking at using gentoo for the email so I'll have an up-to-dat= e
system. Peformance is fine on the Debian system, but hey, faster is
always better.

I was hoping you guys could give me warm fuzzies about stability and
maintenance with gentoo when it comes to a production server.

What about major upgrades? If I keep the system updated regularly, is a
major upgrade necessary?

Thanks!
Tom




If your planning on running a stable server t= hen managing a gentoo server is probably a bit more time intensive, but wil= l pay of in terms of having it configured how *you* want and with the servi= ces *you* want running, not what someone else thinks you should have.

As a rule of thumb dont run ~ARCH unless you absolutely need a certain = package (and even then, stick to keyword specific versions rather than blin= dly keywording everything). Dont feel that you need to sync and update ever= y day, but *do* use tools like glsa-check (i think thats the right one but = im not in my gentoo isntall to check atm) to ensure you update programs whe= re security bugs are known.

Also its worth keeping an eye on things like the forums, and planet as = often when updates to packages are likely to break things, or they need som= e manual intervention when updating, you see some signs of this in advance = (although if you see a major update in your emerge list you *should* be sto= pping and going off to read up on it before blindly emerging).

Of course, all these things wont stop you causing breakages, but if you= work cautiously and have some idea of what your doing then gentoo does wor= k very well as a server.

- Nick
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