From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LMpiJ-0002MY-J6 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2009 20:18:16 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DE686E07EF; Tue, 13 Jan 2009 20:17:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com (rv-out-0708.google.com [209.85.198.246]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F0CDE07EF for ; Tue, 13 Jan 2009 20:17:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b17so174959rvf.46 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 2009 12:17:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=+FBJErykEDQF9XxRmcrcD4/qcvmAl6m1riC5/iNig8Q=; b=olSBnFCIAZcTfbcSVw7NqQ8PCB0+IcrPDi8BNPplagXDDIiAi54q5HF8Zpw8ObnR9T QlzDLxGXkkx4+Y36P2iJ+lBXlUYlxn0LjjGfn+41UIU7/7TGvXcJa5g0aZ1QCEzDLDu/ i7SuSMsOP3fD3scb9YOo5iLChm6lxDbobsM+A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=nib8KaCvFkKiL0ksogdEG1R5U4mZZg0F7VCKfZHJM/VJFv7ZM5CQRzITXRB0+ypXzF UtqFrPVK97GODf4sg5lNcm3+KcN4EFuyNHHjGdmgmpWp6aYDMGcbnJRMSW1LH3sawB3N hbTreuONBUKn4D22iFg6bL66NprWPhWdk2Si8= Received: by 10.141.107.13 with SMTP id j13mr15440954rvm.141.1231877874150; Tue, 13 Jan 2009 12:17:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.140.178.13 with HTTP; Tue, 13 Jan 2009 12:17:54 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 20:17:54 +0000 From: "Nick Cunningham" Sender: mryiff@googlemail.com To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Emerge question: What's with the @? In-Reply-To: <58965d8a0901131154x1bc7630r69cf841208b4fa72@mail.gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_87832_18489164.1231877874137" References: <496CE702.6000700@gmail.com> <58965d8a0901131154x1bc7630r69cf841208b4fa72@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 2df04a22a5d3afa8 X-Archives-Salt: c03ad005-109c-44d2-b292-e8e9d985c9ef X-Archives-Hash: c07e0be2b434394d6d65c7c12e95628c ------=_Part_87832_18489164.1231877874137 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline 2009/1/13 Paul Hartman > > On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 1:37 PM, Chris Lieb wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Nick Cunningham wrote: > >> > >> > >> 2009/1/13 Chris Lieb >> > >> > >> I've noticed lately on the ML that people have been talking about > using > >> package sets, such as @world and @installed. I figured it was a > part of > >> portage 2.1.6* since using @world with 2.1.4* would result in an > error > >> message about an invalid package atom. However, after upgrading to > >> portage 2.1.6.4, I still get the same error when doing something > like > >> 'emerge -up @world'. > >> > >> What are these package sets? What is the difference between 'emerge > -up > >> world' and 'emerge -up @world'? Why don't these package sets ever > work > >> for me? > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Chris > >> > >> > >> A set is basically just group of packages, you can either define you own > >> using /etc/portage/ or using gentoo provided ones like @world and > >> @system (which will replace the current emerge system/world usage > >> eventually), aswell as useful sets such as @live-rebuild (any package > >> that uses a cvs/svn/git eclass, so basically any -9999 ebuild) and > >> @module-rebuild which is handy for rebuilding kernel modules. Also id > >> imagine meta-packages will eventually move over to sets as it makes > >> rebuilding everything or removing it much easier, currently theres only > >> kde4 that makes large usage of sets but id imagine once portage 2.20 > >> goes stable we'l see great set adoption. > >> An easy way to see what sets are available is to use the emerge > >> --list-sets command. > >> > >> -Nick > > > > Thanks for the info. The @module-rebuild should come in handy. Any > > idea on when we'll see 2.2* hit stable? > > > > Thanks again, > > Chris > > "When it's ready" I guess is the standard answer there. :) it's masked > in ~arch as well, but you can simply unmask it if you want to use it. > That's what I did. I have these sets available in my system currently: > > downgrade > installed > live-rebuild > module-rebuild > preserved-rebuild > security > system > unavailable > world > > @live-rebuild is especially handy to rebuild live cvs/svn/etc ebuilds > (that -9999 stuff) > > Paul > > Same, here, ive been a happy user of portage 2.2 for a long time now and im very happy with it and loving the ability to use sets. As with all programs in ~ARCH (and especially as its also masked and under active development) there may be occassional bug or other random error, but if your comfortable working around them and/or reporting them then portage 2.2 is definately worth a try :) - Nick ------=_Part_87832_18489164.1231877874137 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline

2009/1/13 Paul Hartman <paul.hartman+gentoo@gmail.com>
On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 1:37 PM, Chris Lieb <chris.lieb@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Nick Cunningham wrote:
>>
>>
>> 2009/1/13 Chris Lieb <chris.lieb@gmail.com <mailto:chris.lieb@gmail.com>>
>>
>>     I've noticed lately on the ML that people have been talking about using
>>     package sets, such as @world and @installed.  I figured it was a part of
>>     portage 2.1.6* since using @world with 2.1.4* would result in an error
>>     message about an invalid package atom.  However, after upgrading to
>>     portage 2.1.6.4, I still get the same error when doing something like
>>     'emerge -up @world'.
>>
>>     What are these package sets?  What is the difference between 'emerge -up
>>     world' and 'emerge -up @world'?  Why don't these package sets ever work
>>     for me?
>>
>>     Thanks,
>>     Chris
>>
>>
>> A set is basically just group of packages, you can either define you own
>> using /etc/portage/ or using gentoo provided ones like @world and
>> @system (which will replace the current emerge system/world usage
>> eventually), aswell as useful sets such as @live-rebuild (any package
>> that uses a cvs/svn/git eclass, so basically any -9999 ebuild) and
>> @module-rebuild which is handy for rebuilding kernel modules. Also id
>> imagine meta-packages will eventually move over to sets as it makes
>> rebuilding everything or removing it much easier, currently theres only
>> kde4 that makes large usage of sets but id imagine once portage 2.20
>> goes stable we'l see great set adoption.
>> An easy way to see what sets are available is to use the emerge
>> --list-sets command.
>>
>> -Nick
>
> Thanks for the info.  The @module-rebuild should come in handy.  Any
> idea on when we'll see 2.2* hit stable?
>
> Thanks again,
> Chris

"When it's ready" I guess is the standard answer there. :) it's masked
in ~arch as well, but you can simply unmask it if you want to use it.
That's what I did. I have these sets available in my system currently:

   downgrade
   installed
   live-rebuild
   module-rebuild
   preserved-rebuild
   security
   system
   unavailable
   world

@live-rebuild is especially handy to rebuild live cvs/svn/etc ebuilds
(that -9999 stuff)

Paul


Same, here, ive been a happy user of portage 2.2 for a long time now and im very happy with it and loving the ability to use sets. As with all programs in ~ARCH (and especially as its also masked and under active development) there may be occassional bug or other random error, but if your comfortable working around them and/or reporting them then portage 2.2 is definately worth a try :)

- Nick
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