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From: Mart Raudsepp To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2024 23:23:50 +0200 In-Reply-To: <4903736.31r3eYUQgx@rogueboard> References: <6c3931ca-944a-41b1-8980-6e6ac10faacd@gmail.com> <35dee577-dbb4-4422-8a7f-1e3dc5835a94@gmail.com> <4903736.31r3eYUQgx@rogueboard> Autocrypt: addr=leio@gentoo.org; prefer-encrypt=mutual; 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> https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/PipeWire >=20 > I run on my main desktop with USE=3D"-pulseaudio", but if you have any= =20 > applications which need pulseaudio you'll need to enable it, if you > haven't=20 > done this already. You are supposed to have USE=3D"pulseaudio" enabled globally for when you use PipeWire for audio as well. Using libpulse to talk to the PipeWire provided compatible daemon is the main way to get audio over to PipeWire (when ignoring JACK). Only a few things talk to pipewire directly with it's own API and PipeWire upstream generally doesn't recommend doing so unless needing the extra deeply technical things it allows over libpulse API. If you have it disabled, you are likely using ALSA API, which PipeWire should also end up handling (like pulseaudio did), but it has much less features. Mart