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From: Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OFF TOPIC Need Ubuntu network help
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2023 12:54:42 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e768cedf-b245-5415-2f35-ac78168d3fd4@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGfcS_kWv=Sojd2S33c=7W=OmwiyyXm=34myQooFMQ=eXOPFPQ@mail.gmail.com>

Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 17, 2023 at 11:15 PM Grant Edwards
> <grant.b.edwards@gmail.com> wrote:
>> For example, if one
>> of the links is down, Ubuntu is really fond of waiting a couple
>> mintues for it to come up before it finishes booting. [If it doesn't
>> wait for all the network interfaces, how is it going to do all that
>> cloudy crap nobody really wants?]
> I think the intent is to prevent dependency issues, though IMO that
> would be better avoided by just setting dependencies on the systemd
> units.  However, many distros try to abstract systemd behind a wall of
> distro configuration in part because they wanted to the original
> transition to systemd to be seamless.
>
> I have a bunch of ubuntu hosts that have dual NICs and they just love
> to take forever to boot.  This is despite having only one entry in
> /etc/netplan and having it have "optional: true" set.  networkctl
> shows one interface as "configuring" even after the system is up for
> days.
>
> Hmm, might even be a systemd-networkd bug.  I see ubuntu created
> /run/systemd/network/10-netplan-alleths.network and it contains
> "RequiredForOnline=no".
>
> Oh well, I rarely reboot so it just hasn't been on the top of my list
> of things to fix.
>
> Honestly, I'd prefer if it just let me configure networkd directly.
> I'm sure there is some way to do that, but I feel like if I do then
> I'll have to read the release notes every time there is a new release
> to make sure it isn't going to break it.  If you're going to run a
> distro like Ubuntu I've found it is generally best to just figure out
> the "Ubuntu Way" and do it their way.  If that isn't adequate, the
> easier solution is to just use a more appropriate distro.
>


Funny you say that last part.  That's just what I did.  I was fine with
Ubuntu until the network stopped working for no reason.  I certainly
changed nothing.  When I couldn't figure it out, it made me think about
using Gentoo instead.  It went from adequate to needing something else. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 


  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-10-18 17:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-10-16  7:51 [gentoo-user] OFF TOPIC Need Ubuntu network help Dale
2023-10-16  8:01 ` Wols Lists
2023-10-16  8:28   ` Dale
2023-10-16  9:15     ` Tsukasa Mcp_Reznor
2023-10-16 10:24       ` Michael
2023-10-16 16:56         ` Dale
2023-10-16 18:17           ` Neil Bothwick
2023-10-16 18:26           ` Mark Knecht
2023-10-17  0:34             ` Dale
2023-10-17  7:23               ` Neil Bothwick
2023-10-17 16:41                 ` Dale
2023-10-17 17:50                   ` Mark Knecht
2023-10-17 18:07                     ` Dale
2023-10-17 18:24                       ` [gentoo-user] " Grant Edwards
2023-10-17 18:54                         ` Dale
2023-10-17 19:44                           ` Neil Bothwick
2023-10-18  2:50                             ` Dale
2023-10-18  7:36                               ` Neil Bothwick
2023-10-18  9:23                                 ` Michael
2023-10-18 13:57                                   ` Grant Edwards
2023-10-18 17:49                                     ` Dale
2023-10-18 18:40                                       ` Neil Bothwick
2023-10-18 23:24                                         ` Dale
2023-10-19 11:54                                           ` Neil Bothwick
2023-10-19 16:24                                             ` Dale
2023-10-18 18:38                                     ` Michael
2023-10-18 21:07                                       ` Grant Edwards
2023-10-18 22:27                                         ` Dale
2023-10-18 23:06                                           ` Neil Bothwick
2023-10-19  4:49                                             ` [gentoo-user] Re: OFF TOPIC Need Ubuntu network help: boot loader info Dale
2023-10-19  8:40                                               ` Michael
2023-10-19 14:45                                                 ` Dale
2023-10-19 15:38                                                   ` Neil Bothwick
2023-10-19 19:47                                                     ` Dale
2023-10-19 11:55                                               ` Neil Bothwick
2023-10-19 11:59                                                 ` Neil Bothwick
2023-10-19 15:09                                                   ` Peter Humphrey
2023-10-29 11:23                                                 ` Wols Lists
2023-10-19 16:43                                               ` Laurence Perkins
2023-10-19 19:38                                               ` Grant Edwards
2023-10-19 11:47                                             ` [gentoo-user] Re: OFF TOPIC Need Ubuntu network help Peter Humphrey
2023-10-18 17:45                                   ` Neil Bothwick
2023-10-18 18:41                                     ` Michael
2023-10-17 19:35                       ` [gentoo-user] " Mark Knecht
2023-10-17 21:46                         ` Dale
2023-10-17 22:22                           ` Mark Knecht
2023-10-17 22:31                             ` Dale
2023-10-18  3:15                             ` [gentoo-user] " Grant Edwards
2023-10-18  7:39                               ` Neil Bothwick
2023-10-18 14:25                               ` Rich Freeman
2023-10-18 14:40                                 ` Grant Edwards
2023-10-18 17:54                                 ` Dale [this message]
2023-10-17 19:47                   ` [gentoo-user] " Neil Bothwick
2023-10-17 21:52                     ` Dale
2023-10-18  8:23                       ` Dale
2023-10-18 11:56                   ` [OT] " Peter Humphrey
2023-10-18 18:54                     ` Dale
2023-10-16 18:15     ` Neil Bothwick
2023-10-16 14:23 ` Mark Knecht

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