From: Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OFF TOPIC Need Ubuntu network help
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2023 12:54:42 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <e768cedf-b245-5415-2f35-ac78168d3fd4@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGfcS_kWv=Sojd2S33c=7W=OmwiyyXm=34myQooFMQ=eXOPFPQ@mail.gmail.com>
Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 17, 2023 at 11:15 PM Grant Edwards
> <grant.b.edwards@gmail.com> wrote:
>> For example, if one
>> of the links is down, Ubuntu is really fond of waiting a couple
>> mintues for it to come up before it finishes booting. [If it doesn't
>> wait for all the network interfaces, how is it going to do all that
>> cloudy crap nobody really wants?]
> I think the intent is to prevent dependency issues, though IMO that
> would be better avoided by just setting dependencies on the systemd
> units. However, many distros try to abstract systemd behind a wall of
> distro configuration in part because they wanted to the original
> transition to systemd to be seamless.
>
> I have a bunch of ubuntu hosts that have dual NICs and they just love
> to take forever to boot. This is despite having only one entry in
> /etc/netplan and having it have "optional: true" set. networkctl
> shows one interface as "configuring" even after the system is up for
> days.
>
> Hmm, might even be a systemd-networkd bug. I see ubuntu created
> /run/systemd/network/10-netplan-alleths.network and it contains
> "RequiredForOnline=no".
>
> Oh well, I rarely reboot so it just hasn't been on the top of my list
> of things to fix.
>
> Honestly, I'd prefer if it just let me configure networkd directly.
> I'm sure there is some way to do that, but I feel like if I do then
> I'll have to read the release notes every time there is a new release
> to make sure it isn't going to break it. If you're going to run a
> distro like Ubuntu I've found it is generally best to just figure out
> the "Ubuntu Way" and do it their way. If that isn't adequate, the
> easier solution is to just use a more appropriate distro.
>
Funny you say that last part. That's just what I did. I was fine with
Ubuntu until the network stopped working for no reason. I certainly
changed nothing. When I couldn't figure it out, it made me think about
using Gentoo instead. It went from adequate to needing something else.
Dale
:-) :-)
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Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-10-16 7:51 [gentoo-user] OFF TOPIC Need Ubuntu network help Dale
2023-10-16 8:01 ` Wols Lists
2023-10-16 8:28 ` Dale
2023-10-16 9:15 ` Tsukasa Mcp_Reznor
2023-10-16 10:24 ` Michael
2023-10-16 16:56 ` Dale
2023-10-16 18:17 ` Neil Bothwick
2023-10-16 18:26 ` Mark Knecht
2023-10-17 0:34 ` Dale
2023-10-17 7:23 ` Neil Bothwick
2023-10-17 16:41 ` Dale
2023-10-17 17:50 ` Mark Knecht
2023-10-17 18:07 ` Dale
2023-10-17 18:24 ` [gentoo-user] " Grant Edwards
2023-10-17 18:54 ` Dale
2023-10-17 19:44 ` Neil Bothwick
2023-10-18 2:50 ` Dale
2023-10-18 7:36 ` Neil Bothwick
2023-10-18 9:23 ` Michael
2023-10-18 13:57 ` Grant Edwards
2023-10-18 17:49 ` Dale
2023-10-18 18:40 ` Neil Bothwick
2023-10-18 23:24 ` Dale
2023-10-19 11:54 ` Neil Bothwick
2023-10-19 16:24 ` Dale
2023-10-18 18:38 ` Michael
2023-10-18 21:07 ` Grant Edwards
2023-10-18 22:27 ` Dale
2023-10-18 23:06 ` Neil Bothwick
2023-10-19 4:49 ` [gentoo-user] Re: OFF TOPIC Need Ubuntu network help: boot loader info Dale
2023-10-19 8:40 ` Michael
2023-10-19 14:45 ` Dale
2023-10-19 15:38 ` Neil Bothwick
2023-10-19 19:47 ` Dale
2023-10-19 11:55 ` Neil Bothwick
2023-10-19 11:59 ` Neil Bothwick
2023-10-19 15:09 ` Peter Humphrey
2023-10-29 11:23 ` Wols Lists
2023-10-19 16:43 ` Laurence Perkins
2023-10-19 19:38 ` Grant Edwards
2023-10-19 11:47 ` [gentoo-user] Re: OFF TOPIC Need Ubuntu network help Peter Humphrey
2023-10-18 17:45 ` Neil Bothwick
2023-10-18 18:41 ` Michael
2023-10-17 19:35 ` [gentoo-user] " Mark Knecht
2023-10-17 21:46 ` Dale
2023-10-17 22:22 ` Mark Knecht
2023-10-17 22:31 ` Dale
2023-10-18 3:15 ` [gentoo-user] " Grant Edwards
2023-10-18 7:39 ` Neil Bothwick
2023-10-18 14:25 ` Rich Freeman
2023-10-18 14:40 ` Grant Edwards
2023-10-18 17:54 ` Dale [this message]
2023-10-17 19:47 ` [gentoo-user] " Neil Bothwick
2023-10-17 21:52 ` Dale
2023-10-18 8:23 ` Dale
2023-10-18 11:56 ` [OT] " Peter Humphrey
2023-10-18 18:54 ` Dale
2023-10-16 18:15 ` Neil Bothwick
2023-10-16 14:23 ` Mark Knecht
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