From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1FqCO5-0001q1-9I for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 13 Jun 2006 17:09:09 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with SMTP id k5DH5jQ6013809; Tue, 13 Jun 2006 17:05:45 GMT Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k5DGtrPk015253 for ; Tue, 13 Jun 2006 16:55:54 GMT Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CEFF64AF9 for ; Tue, 13 Jun 2006 16:55:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 08195-01-2 for ; Tue, 13 Jun 2006 16:55:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0276F642F8 for ; Tue, 13 Jun 2006 16:55:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1FqCAm-0007XO-Ia for gentoo-user@gentoo.org; Tue, 13 Jun 2006 18:55:24 +0200 Received: from dslb-084-061-143-131.pools.arcor-ip.net ([84.61.143.131]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 13 Jun 2006 18:55:24 +0200 Received: from skoehler by dslb-084-061-143-131.pools.arcor-ip.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 13 Jun 2006 18:55:24 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Sven_K=F6hler?= Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: adsl rp-pppoe - new baselayout problem Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 18:55:07 +0200 Message-ID: References: <448C5EAC.8030603@terra.com.br> <448DE083.1000800@smash-net.org> <37461.141.38.43.231.1150181769.squirrel@ulm114.server4you.de> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigB9B7ED2794EF280F5290F6D7" X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: dslb-084-061-143-131.pools.arcor-ip.net User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (Windows/20060516) In-Reply-To: <37461.141.38.43.231.1150181769.squirrel@ulm114.server4you.de> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Sender: news X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at gentoo.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.517 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=-0.041, BAYES_00=-2.599, SARE_SUB_ODDWORD_P=0.123] X-Spam-Score: -2.517 X-Spam-Level: X-Archives-Salt: 5a8a4549-04a6-4789-8464-f67d7b6829ea X-Archives-Hash: dcfd29386183b88d779408144ad80da6 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigB9B7ED2794EF280F5290F6D7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >>> The old rp-pppoe init script works without problems on my up-to-date >>> gentoo router. I prefer this way, too. >> Nobody needs the old init.d-script anymore. >=20 > Perhaps we don=B4t need it, but we like to use it. >=20 > The OP said he wanted to use the script. If he wants to use that, it=B4= s his > decision, isn=B4t it? Well, it his decision, but AFAIK the script is not maintained anymore and is replaced by ... >> Here are the advantages of >> using baselayout: >> >> - you can unmerge rp-pppoe >=20 > I do not see any advantage in that. > And: The net.example tells to emerge rp-pppoe >=20 > [...] > #----------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- > # ADSL > # For ADSL support, emerge net-dialup/rp-pppoe > # You should make the following settings and also put your [...] =2E.. baselayout's rp-pppoe support that you just found. BTW: the way to use it, is simply: config_eth1=3D( "adsl" ) /etc/init.d/net.eth1 will then also start and stop rp-pppoe But you can also use baselayout's new PPP support that just needs the pppoe-plugin which comes with pppd itself. >> - the pppoe-plugin provided by pppd uses the kernel PPPoE-implementati= on >> which is much faster (but experimental though) >=20 > Faster in what way? It surely does not speed up your adsl-connection an= d i > don=B4t give a damn on that 2,5 seconds at 5 o=B4clock in the morning, = that it > takes to reconnect. Hmmm, well, it might give you - let's say - 1ms of ping-time or something like that. Anyway, IMHO it's the "future" way of using PPPoE if you use the kernel's PPPoE-Implemenation. No need for an additional user-mode rp-pppoe process. And no need for the IPC-overhead between the pppd-process and the rp-pppoe process. Some freaks may have used the "async"-mode instead of the "sync"-mode for the IPC between pppd and rp-pppoe. Well, the async-mode was also called "faster" but it also had the bug, that it might lock up. So the pppd's pppoe-plugin is the perfect way to get something "fast" and workin= g. >> - ... more? >=20 > This is the wrong word, i think "something" would be nice. But that is = my > point of view, others may have seen some advantages in that. Well, i'm not going to argue about what is an advantage, and what is not. It depends on the reader and i just tried to explain, what _might_ be seen as an advantage (actually i see advantages in those things i mentioned - though i don't care about the 1ms ping-improvement). 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