[gentoo-user] startup woes with sshd, rsyncd, nfs, portmap

[gentoo-user] startup woes with sshd, rsyncd, nfs, portmap

[John Blinka]

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Hi, All,

After a long period of not updating one of my machines, I recently did a
fairly large emerge -DuNv world.  And now things don't work quite as they
used to.

Symptoms:

   sshd doesn't start
   nfs doesn't start
   rsyncd doesn't start

   system sometimes hangs on shutdown when it tries to unmount
   remote filesystems.

   There are no complaints in /var/log/messages.

   I can start all of these daemons by hand without a problem and all
   are in the default rc level.  Starting nfs is a bit different from
starting
   the others: I have to start portmap first

Any ideas on where to look for problems?

John Blinka

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Re: [gentoo-user] startup woes with sshd, rsyncd, nfs, portmap

[Hans-Werner Hilse]

Hi,

On Thu, 7 Jun 2007 15:55:45 -0400
"John Blinka" <john.blinka@gmail.com> wrote:

>    sshd doesn't start
>    nfs doesn't start
>    rsyncd doesn't start

Are those being started (i.e. tried to) at boot? Is it just "fail" then
for you? There should at least be a bit of debug info in the output at
startup... You might also try the interactive boot up (hit "I") and see
what happens. You _did_ run etc-update (or its siblings) in order to
get the new files in /etc/init.d/ activated? You're sure you have the
new versions of those files installed?

Since all of those daemons depend on network: Are there network
settings for interfaces that fail on boot up?

-hwh
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Re: [gentoo-user] startup woes with sshd, rsyncd, nfs, portmap

[Mick]

...and revdep-rebuild, although if libs were broken you should get
some errors in your logs.

HTH.
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Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] startup woes with sshd, rsyncd, nfs, portmap

[John Blinka]

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On 6/7/07, Hans-Werner Hilse <hilse@web.de> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> On Thu, 7 Jun 2007 15:55:45 -0400
> "John Blinka" <john.blinka@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >    sshd doesn't start
> >    nfs doesn't start
> >    rsyncd doesn't start
>
> Are those being started (i.e. tried to) at boot? Is it just "fail" then
> for you? There should at least be a bit of debug info in the output at
> startup... You might also try the interactive boot up (hit "I") and see
> what happens.


I used interactive bootup as you suggested, and discovered that
the system is not even attempting to start them, even though
rc-update thinks they're supposed to be started at the "default"
runlevel.  I can start them by hand without any errors, so the lack
of messages in the logs isn't surprising.


You _did_ run etc-update (or its siblings) in order to
> get the new files in /etc/init.d/ activated? You're sure you have the
> new versions of those files installed?


Yes, I ran etc-update, and revdep-rebuild.  I do have the latest versions
of the /etc/init.d files.

Since all of those daemons depend on network: Are there network
> settings for interfaces that fail on boot up?


Network works fine.

John

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Re: [gentoo-user] startup woes with sshd, rsyncd, nfs, portmap

[Hans-Werner Hilse]

Hi,

On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 07:29:41 -0400 "John Blinka"
<john.blinka@gmail.com> wrote:

> I used interactive bootup as you suggested, and discovered that
> the system is not even attempting to start them, even though
> rc-update thinks they're supposed to be started at the "default"
> runlevel.  I can start them by hand without any errors, so the lack
> of messages in the logs isn't surprising.

Can you provide the full output of "rc-update show"?

> Since all of those daemons depend on network: Are there network
> > settings for interfaces that fail on boot up?
> 
> Network works fine.

Does that mean: "No there are no failing network related things on boot
up"?

-hwh
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Re: [gentoo-user] startup woes with sshd, rsyncd, nfs, portmap

[John Blinka]

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On 6/13/07, Hans-Werner Hilse <hilse@web.de> wrote:

>
> Can you provide the full output of "rc-update show"?


 --> rc-update show
           alsasound | boot
            bootmisc | boot
             checkfs | boot
           checkroot | boot
               clock | boot
         consolefont | boot
       courier-imapd |      default
               cupsd |      default
                dbus |      default
               dhcpd |      default
             distccd |      default
           fetchmail |      default
            hostname | boot
             keymaps | boot
               local |      default nonetwork
          localmount | boot
             modules | boot
            net.eth0 |      default
              net.lo | boot
            netmount |      default
                 nfs |      default
          ntp-client |      default
                ntpd |      default
             postfix |      default
           rmnologin | boot
              rsyncd |      default
               samba |      default
               slapd |      default
                sshd |      default
              svscan | boot
           syslog-ng |      default
             urandom | boot
                 xdm |      default
              xinetd |      default

> Since all of those daemons depend on network: Are there network
> > > settings for interfaces that fail on boot up?
> >
> > Network works fine.
>
> Does that mean: "No there are no failing network related things on boot
> up"?


 Yes, that's what it means.

John Blinka

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Re: [gentoo-user] startup woes with sshd, rsyncd, nfs, portmap

[Hans-Werner Hilse]

Hi,

On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 09:21:03 -0400 "John Blinka"
<john.blinka@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 6/13/07, Hans-Werner Hilse <hilse@web.de> wrote:
> 
> >
> > Can you provide the full output of "rc-update show"?
> 
> 
>  --> rc-update show
> [...]

looks pretty much normal, nothing that I would call an obvious glitch
in there.

I'm getting out of ideas, but there's one thing left: /etc/conf.d/rc
Check if using other values for RC_NET_STRICT_CHECKING,
RC_PARALLEL_STARTUP and maybe (if currently set) RC_PLUG_SERVICES have
any consequences. I'm not sure, but I think the other settings
shouldn't matter.

-hwh
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Re: [gentoo-user] startup woes with sshd, rsyncd, nfs, portmap

[John Blinka]

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On 6/13/07, Hans-Werner Hilse <hilse@web.de> wrote:
>
>
>
> looks pretty much normal, nothing that I would call an obvious glitch
> in there.


It's the same as two other Gentoo boxes I run, both of which start
up normally, and it's the same as it was before the problems started,
so I agree: rc-update is not the source of the problem,

I'm getting out of ideas, but there's one thing left: /etc/conf.d/rc
> Check if using other values for RC_NET_STRICT_CHECKING,
> RC_PARALLEL_STARTUP and maybe (if currently set) RC_PLUG_SERVICES have
> any consequences. I'm not sure, but I think the other settings
> shouldn't matter.


It's also the same as all my other "normal" Gentoo boxes, so unlikely to be
the source of the problem.

John

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