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Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/60.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.4 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------05E9E0A36EF476CA4756EC0B" X-Archives-Salt: 3ba3f9a5-c8dc-48c6-9b9b-656382111aed X-Archives-Hash: d27c55b6e2da8bcaa879418e8dd461d9 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------05E9E0A36EF476CA4756EC0B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Jude DaShiell wrote: > On Sun, 11 Oct 2020, John Covici wrote: > >> Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2020 00:09:16 >> From: John Covici >> Reply-To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org >> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org >> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] >> >> On Sat, 10 Oct 2020 19:49:54 -0400, >> Jude DaShiell wrote: >>> On Sat, 10 Oct 2020, Neil Bothwick wrote: >>> >>>> Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2020 13:34:43 >>>> From: Neil Bothwick >>>> Reply-To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org >>>> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org >>>> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] >>>> >>>> On Sat, 10 Oct 2020 10:00:04 -0400, Jude DaShiell wrote: >>>> >>>>> I did make menuconf in /usr/src/linux and in devices->staging drivers I >>>>> found nothing to enable. Speakup got moved out of staging so that's >>>>> understandable. in device drivers->accessibility all I found was enable >>>>> app-accessibility which I turned on. Is speakup.synth=soft stored in >>>>> the runtime driver for espeak now? >>>> Press / in menuconf to search for options. This also shows options that >>>> are currently unavailable, and what you need to enable to get at them. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> -- >>> >>> A search through options made no mention of anything connected to >>> accessibility. Trying to install a different kernel source has everything >>> masked. I'll read up on masking next, but it's looking like I'm going to >>> have to erase everything back to the get stage3 step again and get a less >>> current stage3 to get anything installed at all. >> You don't need to do that, you can unmask anything depending on the >> reason. Didn't the autounmask option fix your problem? >> >> You can also use the 5.4.66 stable version. >> Also, even in 5.8.13 speakup is still in staging and I did a search >> and found it in drivers/staging/speakup, so you can certainly try >> that or whatever version of 5.8 you have. >> >> I'm not sure why you felt wiping the hard drive was needed.  Generally, you can stop and come back and finish a install at pretty much any point without losing anything.  It may be helpful to read through the handbook first and then do the install.  I read the install docs a few times before I tried to do my first install.  It helps to know how to work through things without getting frustrated or confused on what to do to get though a problem. That said, you;ve learned how some things work so next time should be a bit easier.  ;-) Dale :-)  :-) --------------05E9E0A36EF476CA4756EC0B Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Jude DaShiell wrote:
On Sun, 11 Oct 2020, John Covici wrote:


Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2020 00:09:16
From: John Covici <covici@ccs.covici.com>
Reply-To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user]

On Sat, 10 Oct 2020 19:49:54 -0400,
Jude DaShiell wrote:

On Sat, 10 Oct 2020, Neil Bothwick wrote:


Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2020 13:34:43
From: Neil Bothwick <neil@digimed.co.uk>
Reply-To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user]

On Sat, 10 Oct 2020 10:00:04 -0400, Jude DaShiell wrote:


I did make menuconf in /usr/src/linux and in devices->staging drivers I
found nothing to enable.  Speakup got moved out of staging so that's
understandable.  in device drivers->accessibility all I found was enable
app-accessibility which I turned on.  Is speakup.synth=soft stored in
the runtime driver for espeak now?

Press / in menuconf to search for options. This also shows options that
are currently unavailable, and what you need to enable to get at them.




--

A search through options made no mention of anything connected to
accessibility.  Trying to install a different kernel source has everything
masked.  I'll read up on masking next, but it's looking like I'm going to
have to erase everything back to the get stage3 step again and get a less
current stage3 to get anything installed at all.

You don't need to do that, you can unmask anything depending on the
reason.  Didn't the autounmask  option fix your problem?

You can also use the 5.4.66 stable version.
Also, even in 5.8.13 speakup is still in staging and I did a search
and found it in  drivers/staging/speakup, so you can certainly try
that or whatever version of 5.8 you have.




    

    

    

    I'm not sure why you felt wiping the hard drive was needed. 
    Generally, you can stop and come back and finish a install at pretty
    much any point without losing anything.  It may be helpful to read
    through the handbook first and then do the install.  I read the
    install docs a few times before I tried to do my first install.  It
    helps to know how to work through things without getting frustrated
    or confused on what to do to get though a problem. 

    

    That said, you;ve learned how some things work so next time should
    be a bit easier.  ;-)

    

    Dale 

    

    :-)  :-) 

  


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