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[74.188.241.18]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id o62sm9699540qkd.53.2020.06.20.10.09.02 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 20 Jun 2020 10:09:03 -0700 (PDT) To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org From: Dale Subject: [gentoo-user] Memory cards and deleting files. 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Also, refreshing the tab in Dolphin doesn't work either.  I thought maybe it just cached what was there and wasn't updating so I did a F5 to force it.  Tried it several times actually.  Also, before I unmount the card, it shows the files are deleted.  They just reappear after a unmount and remount again. I thought I'd use a little more brute force.  I started the process over again the usual way.  I then went to a Konsole which is logged in as root, I did a rm -rfv for the main directory on the card.  It showed it deleted all the files.  I then did the sync command, to make sure everything was done, and told Device Notifier to unmount it.  I unplugged it and plugged it back up again.  When I mount it and open it with Dolphin, there the files are.  Even as root and not moving to trash, the files don't delete.  Keep in mind, I can write new files to the little cards.  So I'm pretty sure it is not a write protection problem or a permissions problem.  It's just a can't delete or move to trash problem.  Anyone ever ran into something like this?  When rm -rfv doesn't work, I'm not sure how much more brute force there is short of a hammer.  Thoughts?? Dale :-)  :-)  --------------76C80F838B9266EDFCC36D24 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Howdy,

I have a couple deer trail cameras.  They use SDHC cards.  I have several of these.  I was playing with one that hasn't been used in a while and was going to set it up to use for other things.  I put it in my card reader and opened it with Dolphin.  I then right clicked on the directory and chose move to trash.  When it was done, I unmounted it using Device Notifier.  I unplugged the card reader and plugged it back in again.  When I mount it with Device Notifier and opened it with Dolphin, the files were still there.  They didn't delete or move anywhere.  There was no error either. Also, refreshing the tab in Dolphin doesn't work either.  I thought maybe it just cached what was there and wasn't updating so I did a F5 to force it.  Tried it several times actually.  Also, before I unmount the card, it shows the files are deleted.  They just reappear after a unmount and remount again.

I thought I'd use a little more brute force.  I started the process over again the usual way.  I then went to a Konsole which is logged in as root, I did a rm -rfv for the main directory on the card.  It showed it deleted all the files.  I then did the sync command, to make sure everything was done, and told Device Notifier to unmount it.  I unplugged it and plugged it back up again.  When I mount it and open it with Dolphin, there the files are.  Even as root and not moving to trash, the files don't delete. 

Keep in mind, I can write new files to the little cards.  So I'm pretty sure it is not a write protection problem or a permissions problem.  It's just a can't delete or move to trash problem. 

Anyone ever ran into something like this?  When rm -rfv doesn't work, I'm not sure how much more brute force there is short of a hammer. 

Thoughts??

Dale

:-)  :-) 
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