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From: "Lord Sauron" <lordsauronthegreat@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Things that can be improved
Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2006 21:00:47 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e5a3e9ac0607072100p1f57aff4r4c762d21fe29a1d0@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <44AF166E.5080000@gentoo.org>

On 7/7/06, Zac Medico <zmedico@gentoo.org> wrote:
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> Lord Sauron wrote:
> > My personal gripe is how slow emerge is on just plain old emerge-ish
> > things.  That we have to use things like eix to search is pathetic.
> > This NEVER happened in Debian.
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> emerge/portage has lots of room for improvement.  Lots of the code is quite messy and it has been largely neglected because most people simply refuse to do much work on such a mess.  However, since I've joined the project, I've been doing doing lots of work to clean up this code that most people won't touch.  It's getting better, slowly but surely.

Yes, it does.  However, portage aside, it lacks something like
aptitude to really fill in the loose ends.

> There are so many technical issues that remain to be solved in portage that it's difficult to justify spending time on problems that have already been solved in one way or another.  There many tools in existence that already do the search part pretty well.  Lots of other things still need fixing...

Yeah.  Portage works, however, I think it's really in need of a large
overhaul.  If what you're saying is true, and it's really just a load
of scripts, then I really would HIGHLY suggest that you consider
beginning to make smaller helper applications in C and stuff to speed
things up.  Right now it does have one thing that I have to say is
better than Debian...  once you get used to it:  package masking.

That is something that is really quite nifty that debian lacks, but I
wouldn't say is a killer app.  I'll be on Gentoo for one reason only:
I'm obcessed with learning more about Linux, no matter how much
trouble that means I have to get myself into ; )

Perhaps if I ever become good enough at Linux and programming I'll
feel brave enough to try and help with the Portage problem...  It's
definitely a idea I'm beginning to entertain.  I may just start
looking through the sources.  Who knows?  With what limited skill I
have I may be able to cook up some of those helper applications to
speed things up!

Scripts are great, but they aren't for whole applications.  Yes, that
would be a quotable.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-07-08  4:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-07-07 19:22 [gentoo-user] Things that can be improved Rafael Fernández López
2006-07-07 20:34 ` gentuxx
2006-07-07 21:11 ` Daniel da Veiga
2006-07-07 21:12 ` Richard Fish
2006-07-07 21:31   ` Daniel da Veiga
2006-07-07 21:42   ` [gentoo-user] " dnlt0hn5ntzhbqkv51
2006-07-07 21:46   ` [gentoo-user] " leszek
2006-07-07 23:00   ` Daniel Iliev
2006-07-08  0:34     ` Richard Fish
2006-07-08  1:37       ` Daniel Iliev
2006-07-11  1:32       ` Dale
2006-07-08  7:25     ` Justin R Findlay
2006-07-08 14:42       ` Daniel Iliev
2006-07-08 17:59         ` Justin R Findlay
2006-07-08  9:27     ` Neil Bothwick
2006-07-08 14:45       ` Daniel Iliev
2006-07-08 22:15         ` Ryan Tandy
2006-07-09  2:16           ` [gentoo-user][OT]Things " Daniel Iliev
2006-07-09  2:46             ` [gentoo-user]MPlayer: CPU Detection? (was: [OT]Things that can be improved) Ryan Tandy
2006-07-09  3:41               ` [gentoo-user]MPlayer: CPU Detection? Daniel Iliev
2006-07-09  4:40                 ` Ryan Tandy
2006-07-09 13:25                   ` [gentoo-user][OT]MPlayer: " Daniel Iliev
2006-07-07 21:37 ` [gentoo-user] Things that can be improved Hemmann, Volker Armin
2006-07-08  2:23   ` Zac Medico
2006-07-08  8:00     ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
2006-07-08  9:31       ` Neil Bothwick
2006-07-08 20:32         ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
2006-07-08 21:00           ` Neil Bothwick
2006-07-08 21:10             ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
2006-07-08 22:25               ` Neil Bothwick
2006-07-08  0:47 ` Lord Sauron
2006-07-08  1:09   ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-07-08  3:54     ` Lord Sauron
2006-07-08  2:20   ` Zac Medico
2006-07-08  2:49     ` Richard Fish
2006-07-08  4:00     ` Lord Sauron [this message]
2006-07-08  4:14       ` Richard Fish
2006-07-08  4:18         ` Lord Sauron
2006-07-08  4:38       ` Zac Medico
2006-07-08  4:44         ` Lord Sauron
2006-07-08 18:24       ` Alexander Skwar
2006-07-08 12:28 ` Rafael Fernández López
2006-07-08 15:02   ` Daniel Iliev
2006-07-08 18:30   ` Alexander Skwar
2006-07-08 19:03     ` Neil Bothwick
2006-07-08 21:03     ` Rafael Fernández López
2006-07-09 15:18       ` Alexander Skwar
2006-07-09 17:47         ` Neil Bothwick
2006-07-09 18:18           ` Alexander Skwar
2006-07-09 21:45             ` Neil Bothwick
2006-07-11 17:22             ` Devon Miller
2006-07-09 15:21       ` Alexander Skwar
2006-07-09 22:46       ` kashani
2006-07-08 18:15 ` Alexander Skwar
2006-07-08 18:18 ` Alexander Skwar
2006-07-08 20:37 ` Walter Dnes
2006-07-08 20:59   ` Gerhard Hoogterp
2006-07-08 22:26     ` Neil Bothwick
2006-07-09 15:29     ` Alexander Skwar
2006-07-09 15:53       ` David Dalrymple
2006-07-09 16:03         ` Jeremy Olexa
2006-07-10  0:47           ` David Dalrymple
2006-07-09 16:26         ` Alexander Skwar
2006-07-09 17:26         ` Etaoin Shrdlu
2006-07-09 18:50       ` Gerhard Hoogterp
2006-07-09 19:20         ` Alexander Skwar
2006-07-11 11:05       ` Walter Dnes
2006-07-11 11:09         ` Alexander Skwar
2006-07-11 15:07           ` Dale
2006-07-11 16:26             ` Ryan Tandy
2006-07-11 16:35         ` Daniel da Veiga
2006-07-11 19:07           ` Gerhard Hoogterp
2006-07-11 19:56             ` Alexander Skwar
2006-07-11 20:33               ` Allan Gottlieb
2006-07-11 21:01                 ` Dale
2006-07-11 23:43                   ` Allan Gottlieb
2006-07-11 21:14                 ` Benno Schulenberg
2006-07-11 20:30             ` Hans-Werner Hilse
2006-07-09 15:25   ` Alexander Skwar
2006-07-12  0:12 ` David Corbin
2006-07-12  2:21   ` Richard Fish
2006-07-27 13:34 ` Enrico Weigelt
2006-07-27 14:05   ` Neil Bothwick
2006-07-28  7:41   ` [gentoo-user] " Remy Blank

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