From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <gentoo-user+bounces-45856-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@gentoo.org>) id 1Fz1E0-0007eM-Mz for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 08 Jul 2006 01:03:13 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.7/8.13.6) with SMTP id k6810Kp1027735; Sat, 8 Jul 2006 01:00:20 GMT Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.226]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.7/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k680lPL5001229 for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Sat, 8 Jul 2006 00:47:26 GMT Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 36so1464138wra for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Fri, 07 Jul 2006 17:47:25 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=fwGs5G/dHwEKSuOSG8iWhVswCq8p5rMgEkfIZj+4G4fZn7iFgVN/6B/N3ChJwGXgb2Wumxp8UV5SyT2BJiSoYW2EZ/xZnuVUYZJHGLRfcmraFhNXtb5hAmDSLSpQgsQyrdShplHuH84RxRuL0dvtUOVrApdqf6WDOJd/LFiaX4Y= Received: by 10.65.100.11 with SMTP id c11mr2851159qbm; Fri, 07 Jul 2006 17:47:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.243.9 with HTTP; Fri, 7 Jul 2006 17:47:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <e5a3e9ac0607071747t41e9e750m95cb2bca1f72ab04@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2006 17:47:25 -0700 From: "Lord Sauron" <lordsauronthegreat@gmail.com> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Things that can be improved In-Reply-To: <44AEB475.8000702@maestroprogramador.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-user+help@gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+unsubscribe@gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+subscribe@gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-user.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline References: <44AEB475.8000702@maestroprogramador.com> X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by robin.gentoo.org id k680lPL5001229 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by robin.gentoo.org id k6810KpI027735 X-Archives-Salt: eccae0d8-0425-4a11-9d20-a47f85a46319 X-Archives-Hash: 5841ffdf871703f9750763c967b35543 On 7/7/06, Rafael Fern=E1ndez L=F3pez <info@maestroprogramador.com> wrote= : > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi, > > This is not flame war. I love Gentoo, and it is the distributio= n that > fits me perfectly, but I've been wondering this last year what things > can be improved in this wonderful distro. I've got a small list of personal pet peeves as well. However, overall Gentoo is beyond excellent. It also gets the honour of being the Distro I've stuck with the longest. > The first thing that I'd change is "etc-update" or "dispatch-co= nf". I'd > suggest to create some kind of tool like "dpkg-reconfigure" in Debian. > More intuitive than reading /etc files and writing them by hand that is > more probably to be mistaken when writing. Might want to include parts of dpkg in that tool. No sense in re-inventing the wheel, eh? > Second thing that I'd improve is a security one. I know that "e= merge" > is a very cared package, but it is a script. Suppose that someone > commits portage with a emerge failure in its code (he forgot a comma > !!)... if someone updates portage won't be able to update it again > because it will fail ever and ever again... So I suggest to have a > backuped emerge script that we are sure that worked (like the last > emerge tool that was used), and if the new emerge tool is mistaken (so > that user doesn't need to know python) only has to run "regenemerge" fo= r > example, and will have the latest emerge working tool. It wouldn't have gotten off of the guy's test box I'd think. My personal gripe is how slow emerge is on just plain old emerge-ish things. That we have to use things like eix to search is pathetic. This NEVER happened in Debian. I also am considering trying to adapt aptitude to Gentoo. I think aptitude is the best thing since... anyways, I love aptitude and want to make it portage-friendly. Just having a command-line package browser like aptitude in Gentoo would be awesome. Now is the time to tell me how incredibly stupid I am for imagining something like that. Otherwise I might just fire up KDevelop, grab a copy of aptitude, and start working. I'm known to do things like that. > If I have more ideas I'll tell ya. Same here. --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D GCv3.12 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D GCS d-(++) s+: a? C++ UL+>++++ P+ L++ E--- W+(+++) N++ o? K? w--- O? M+ V? PS- PE+ Y-(--) PGP- t+++ 5? X R tv-- b+ DI+++ D+ G e* h- !r !y =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D END GCv3.12 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D --=20 gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list