From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.54) id 1FNxeY-0002n9-Kd for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 19:45:27 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.6/8.13.5) with SMTP id k2RJi1D9011063; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 19:44:01 GMT Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.206]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.6/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k2RJd4vT031020 for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 19:39:04 GMT Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 34so1493291nzf for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 11:39:03 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=c2SBDGSwjB3TJhQpBMeltFiy/W5TZZCXv/ULHlX0dFf4jhy7Noq30W1n3pcaj0su6y6lOXwF54M7+44JZkYZlJlMNAQ+hRvHY8WbbqBwBekvgGZuZ3QeSu3jfEi60MP2tcTvnwA00V+Un0QBImzikZOgtHtULBd0inH2E41D1OQ= Received: by 10.36.222.30 with SMTP id u30mr5489147nzg; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 11:39:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.36.154.7 with HTTP; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 11:39:03 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 11:39:03 -0800 From: "Lord Sauron" To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] New To Gentoo and Emerge, No ACPI in Kernel In-Reply-To: <44282B49.50709@vista-express.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Disposition: inline References: <200603252158.27238.peter.ruskin@dsl.pipex.com> <200603251510.24953.joshhelmer@cox.net> <8c7713390603261520m1ee275f8n@mail.gmail.com> <8c7713390603261718l734a4ea0p@mail.gmail.com> <44276D66.6060103@vista-express.com> <44282B49.50709@vista-express.com> X-MIME-Autoconverted: from base64 to 8bit by robin.gentoo.org id k2RJd4vT031020 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by robin.gentoo.org id k2RJi1DR011063 X-Archives-Salt: 23306f49-6573-4f3d-ab8c-8fe65fa8e165 X-Archives-Hash: 70f1e163ec9c5d0166017f0b07667142 On 3/27/06, Teresa and Dale wrote: > Lord Sauron wrote: > > >On 3/26/06, Teresa and Dale wrote: > > > > > > > > > >I had this set to be compiled into the kernel. Should that present > >any problems? > > > > > > Most things do not matter. You can do either way. There are some > things that I have seen that must be modules and some things, like file > systems, that must be compiled in. Example on the last one, I use > reiserfs for my files system including root. If I have reiserfs as a > module, the kernel will not be able to read my root partition to boot > up. For that reason, I have to compile it in so it can read the root > partition. IF I had say a data partition that used XFS, I could make > that a module if I wanted to. The system will boot up and then load al= l > the modules so it can read the other file systems. Clever. > One reason some use modules is that you can update them or do bug fixes > without rebooting. You just unload the module, update it, then reload > it again. This is usually something that folks like me and you do not > have to worry about though. Extremely clever. I'll have to remeber cool tricks like that when I'm working with my own server... > >>>=81 =81<*> Button =81 =81 > >>>=81 =81< > Video =81 =81 > >>>=81 =81< > Generic Hotkey (EXPERIMENTAL) =81 =81 > >>>=81 =81< > Fan =81 =81 > >>>=81 =81< > Processor =81 =81 > >>>=81 =81< > ASUS/Medion Laptop Extras =81 =81 > >>>=81 =81< > IBM ThinkPad Laptop Extras =81 =81 > >>> > >>> > > > >I had this enabled (compiled into kernel) since I do own a IBM X40. > > > > > > > >>>=81 =81< > Toshiba Laptop Extras =81 =81 > >>>=81 =81(0) Disable ACPI for systems before Jan 1st this year (NEW) =81= =81 > >>> > >>> > > > >What on earth is this? I read the descriptor, but it didn't help me m= uch... > > > > > > From what I have read, some systems do not support ACPI at all. They > will not work, or maybe they blow up or something. I assume that there > is some way for it to know when it was made and it will disable it if i= t > is before that date. I'm not really sure either. Oh... that makes sense. > >>As it says up at the top, you can press "y" to compile it in, press "= m" > >>to have it as a module or press "n" to leave it out. You can also swi= th > >>through them with the space bar. There are a lot of gurus here that m= ay > >>disagree with this, but I have no modules for my kernel unless I have= to > >>have it for some reason. I did have modules for my temp sensors but t= hat > >>was so I could reset it without rebooting. I'm sure someone will come= in > >>with 100 reasons to have modules and some others will have reasons no= t > >>too. I say do it like you need to and whatever makes you and the syst= em > >>happy. > >> > >> > > > >I'm just going to try compiling stuff into the kernel first, before I > >try and tinker. > > > > > > Save that info, you may need it. The first kernel I made would boot up > but some things, USB and a couple other things didn't work, so I made a > new one. The new one wouldn't work at all. Something I changed didn't > work right at all. Since I saved the old one, I just rebooted and used > it. Otherwise, I would have had to boot the CD and chrooted in to fix > it. That's a good tip to keep in mind. I'm actually not certain that I have the kernel built and installed.=20 I tried the make install command, but I'm still not certain that I've done this all correctly. At this rate, I may try and re-install KDE and stuff to see if it's no longer a problem with the kernel. Is there a way to see what's currently compiled in or modules enabled/loaded in the kernel that currently running? If there is, then I could very quickly diagnose where the disconnect is. > >>When you make a new kernel, don't remove the old one. Since it does b= oot > >>up, you can use it to fall back on in case your new one fails for som= e > >>reason. Just give it a different name from the old one when you copy = it > >>over. I do mine names like this: > >> > >> > > > >So, I should rename one of my kernels and try and see which one is > >which? Or am I still off the mark? It didn't look like it compiled > >the kernel... I think it should have taken longer, but it didn't. I > >may be missing a step. : / > > > > > > Most likely the first one is named bzImage and that is fine. Just name > you new one something different. You can name it bzImage-1 if you > want. I put the kernel version on the end so I know what version it is. Yeah, but I've been using the "make install" command, so I'm not totally sure if what I'm doing is even effective. > >>>root@smoker / # ls -al /boot/bzI* > >>>-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2196613 Sep 18 2005 /boot/bzImage-gen-2.6.12-= 1 > >>>-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2224482 Dec 20 20:31 /boot/bzImage-gen-2.6.14= -4 > >>>-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2225130 Dec 27 04:50 /boot/bzImage-gen-2.6.14= -5 > >>>root@smoker / # > >>> > >>> > >>I currently have three kernels that I can boot if one of them gets > >>corrupted or something. The last digit is like a version number for m= e. > >>If you can't boot the old one, you can hit "e" twice when grub comes = up > >>and then use the arrow keys to edit which kernel you want to boot. It > >>can save you a lot of headaches too. After you edit that, you just hi= t > >>return and then hit the "b" key to boot it up. If it gives you a grub > >>error, just hit the escape (Esc) key to go back and try again. > >> > >> > > > >Just a question: if the support is made to be as a module (M, instead > >of *) does that mean that you have to add something like "doacpi" to > >the boot parameters? > > > > > > That means you have to add it to the /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6 > file for it to load the module when it boots. This is what my file > looks like: So I'd add something like > acpi ? > > nvidia > > hwmon_vid > > i2c_isa > > w83627hf > > > I guess I do still have my sensors as modules. Anyway, nvidia has to b= e > a module. You will see them when they load up. Yeah, nVidia supplies proprietary closed-source drivers, don't they? > >>Hope this helps. I'm about to take some meds and may not be around fo= r a > >>while. Plenty of others here to help though. > >> > >> > > > >Ah, you take crazy-pills too. I've already taken mine, so I'm a > >couple minutes away from sleep. Thanks for your help. By the end of > >this I'll hopefully be guru enough to help someone else out in turn : > >) > > > > > > Not crazy pills. I'm disabled from a skin disorder and when it starts > to itch like crazy I can take meds for it. It's just that the meds mak= e > me sleepy. When I get up, I have a really dry mouth and I want to eat > everything in the house, even some foods I don't like. I took my meds, > just one pill though, so parden me while I go eat. O_O Oh. I just have ADD. My pills in the morning shut me up, the ones in the evening shut me down. When I forget to take my morning pills...=20 yeah. I'm not so bad as I am Mr. Comedy-Central. -- =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D GCv3.12 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D GCS d-(++) s+: a? C++ UL+>++++ P+ L++ E--- W+(+++) N++ o? K? w--- O? M+ V? PS- PE+ Y-(--) PGP- t+++ 5? X R tv-- b+ DI+++ D+ G e* h- !r !y =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D END GCv3.12 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D --=20 gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list