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Linux x86_64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/91.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.15 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------63C8BBC9FA62FFA30ADCCCE7" X-Archives-Salt: dc3614ff-d65b-4139-830d-eff5c2da923e X-Archives-Hash: 4ce60c5b6e879f13c228877563ea3099 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------63C8BBC9FA62FFA30ADCCCE7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Mark Knecht wrote: > > > On Sun, Apr 16, 2023 at 11:54 AM Dale > wrote: > > > > Mark Knecht wrote: > > > <<< SNIP >>> > > > I guess I don't understand why you would put Knoppix in the boot > > > partition vs somewhere else. Is this for some sort of recovery > > > process you're comfortable with vs recovering from a bootable DVD? > > > > > > - Mark > > > > I'm wanting to be able to boot something from the hard drive in the > > event the OS itself won't boot.  The other day I had to dig around and > > find a bootable USB stick and also found a DVD.  Ended up with the DVD > > working best.  I already have memtest on /boot.  Thing is, I very rarely > > use it.  ;-) > > So in the scenario you are suggesting, is grub working, giving you a > boot choice screen, and your new Gentoo install is not working so > you want to choose Knoppix to repair whatever is wrong with  > Gentoo?  > > If that's the case why shoehorn Knoppix into the boot partition > vs just give it its own partition?  > > Dang Mark, I hadn't thought of that.    See, that's why you need to stick around here.  ROFL  I wonder, can I do that with the Gentoo LiveGUI too??  Anyone know?  I may need help getting Grub to see those tho.  I let it do it's thing with my kernels but I have no idea on pointing it to something else.  Given I have a 500GB drive, I got plenty of space.  Heck, a 10GB partition each is more than enough for either Knoppix or LiveGUI.  I could even store info on there about drive partitions and scripts that I use a lot.  Jeez, that's a idea.  Thanks. Dale :-)  :-)  :-)  :-)  P. S. Extra happy there.  ;-) --------------63C8BBC9FA62FFA30ADCCCE7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Mark Knecht wrote:


On Sun, Apr 16, 2023 at 11:54 AM Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Mark Knecht wrote:
> > <<< SNIP >>>
> > I guess I don't understand why you would put Knoppix in the boot
> > partition vs somewhere else. Is this for some sort of recovery
> > process you're comfortable with vs recovering from a bootable DVD?
> >
> > - Mark
>
> I'm wanting to be able to boot something from the hard drive in the
> event the OS itself won't boot.  The other day I had to dig around and
> find a bootable USB stick and also found a DVD.  Ended up with the DVD
> working best.  I already have memtest on /boot.  Thing is, I very rarely
> use it.  ;-)

So in the scenario you are suggesting, is grub working, giving you a
boot choice screen, and your new Gentoo install is not working so
you want to choose Knoppix to repair whatever is wrong with 
Gentoo? 

If that's the case why shoehorn Knoppix into the boot partition
vs just give it its own partition? 




Dang Mark, I hadn't thought of that.  <slaps forehead>  See, that's why you need to stick around here.  ROFL  I wonder, can I do that with the Gentoo LiveGUI too??  Anyone know?  I may need help getting Grub to see those tho.  I let it do it's thing with my kernels but I have no idea on pointing it to something else. 

Given I have a 500GB drive, I got plenty of space.  Heck, a 10GB partition each is more than enough for either Knoppix or LiveGUI.  I could even store info on there about drive partitions and scripts that I use a lot.  Jeez, that's a idea. 

Thanks.

Dale

:-)  :-)  :-)  :-) 

P. S. Extra happy there.  ;-)
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