From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B950C15838C for ; Wed, 31 Jan 2024 17:41:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E0B632BC065; Wed, 31 Jan 2024 17:41:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail1104c7.megamailservers.com (mail746.megamailservers.com [69.49.98.56]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6364A2BC060 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 2024 17:41:01 +0000 (UTC) X-Authenticated-User: admin@sys-concept.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=megamailservers.com; s=mailtor; t=1706722860; bh=EdE3qmnJeS+5SVe25m/Tzn6ZgXlnBy7e2mEerVvoYVo=; h=Date:Subject:To:References:From:In-Reply-To:From; b=hW4WoJSiTlIBF6TntGxBmbMY4KV77/SgQXyix5bn5wSCdN1lrzwQGREMDV6IbFsHF Fn0vj4wrZzgWO/r6Z7Kq2ggkuqZHEHyiTpZBs4u/Cj4xUZFXxsPz3zQZixGX1ot45H 8MdBNbW2UmcUSCrYJ4HKWR4O7Xlm+854lh5jbuZE= Feedback-ID:thelma@sys-conc Authentication-Results: MTA-69.49.101.233; auth=pass smtp.auth=admin@sys-concept.com smtp.mailfrom=thelma@sys-concept.com Received: from [10.0.0.109] ([184.69.242.18]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail1104c7.megamailservers.com (8.14.9/8.13.1) with ESMTP id 40VHet3J002866 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 2024 12:40:56 -0500 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2024 10:40:53 -0700 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Suggestions for backup scheme? Content-Language: en-CA To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org References: <8f5371a5-07af-456e-8517-cb9bb664fac4@youngman.org.uk> From: Thelma In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-VADE-SPAMSTATE: clean X-VADE-SPAMSCORE: 0 X-VADE-SPAMCAUSE: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedvkedrfedtledguddttdcutefuodetggdotefrodftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucfjqffuvffqrffktedpqfgfvfdpgffpggdqveejnecuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddunecunecujfgurhepkfffgggfuffvfhfhjggtgfesthekredttddvjeenucfhrhhomhepvfhhvghlmhgruceothhhvghlmhgrsehshihsqdgtohhntggvphhtrdgtohhmqeenucggtffrrghtthgvrhhnpefhleefgfehgeefkefhteejteeluddvffekgffhfeektdevgfekleeiiedvteefvdenucfkphepudekgedrieelrddvgedvrddukeenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedtnecurfgrrhgrmhepihhnvghtpedukeegrdeiledrvdegvddrudekpdhhvghloheplgdutddrtddrtddruddtlegnpdhmrghilhhfrhhomhepthhhvghlmhgrsehshihsqdgtohhntggvphhtrdgtohhmpdhnsggprhgtphhtthhopedupdhrtghpthhtohepghgvnhhtohhoqdhushgvrheslhhishhtshdrghgvnhhtohhordhorhhg X-Rspamd-Status: No, score=0.91 X-Rspamd-Result: default: False [0.91 / 6.00]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; XM_UA_NO_VERSION(0.01)[]; RCVD_COUNT_ZERO(0.00)[0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6327, ipnet:184.69.224.0/19, country:CA]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM(0.00)[0.743] X-Origin-Country: CA X-Archives-Salt: a452c6bd-fb50-4e8e-abf9-e2c63a8b8208 X-Archives-Hash: 1f9ae1a877b6c8f558344c2f9a472b8f On 1/31/24 08:50, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2024-01-31, Rich Freeman wrote: >> On Wed, Jan 31, 2024 at 6:45 AM John Covici wrote: >>> >>> I know you said you wanted to stay with ext4, but going to zfs reduced >>> my backup time on my entire system from several hours to just a few >>> minutes because taking a snapshot is so quick and copying to another >>> pool is also very quick. >>> >> >> Honestly, at this point I would not run any storage I cared about on >> anything but zfs. There are just so many benefits. > > I'll definitely put zfs on my list of things to play with. I've been > a little reluctant in the past because it wasn't natively supported. I > don't use an initrd (or modules in general). So, using a filesystem > that isn't supported in-tree sounded like too much work. > > -- > Grant If zfs file system is superior to ext4 and it seems to it is. Why hasn't it been adopted more widely in Linux?