From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KvgZJ-0001Yz-OL for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 23:04:45 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D9001E03FB; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 23:04:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ey-out-1920.google.com (ey-out-1920.google.com [74.125.78.145]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E1D9E03FB for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 23:04:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ey-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 4so337691eyk.10 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 16:04:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=J5fRIvEKlG/p7DMWajv2bmEIRj1iFF6XKSspBPmJO6E=; b=Ew+ffXAhuNi2L1dmPUwGTXawYw7g6aZbyLOFi5ZXzWvyESr9e4W3E5MLc3j0vGtNsK ncIA13BAR9Hv3rENA5FZpE6J26qTmlScQ1afugeKe9q2VjjVoij4u5cZyj2I79DHWqFU NmWCuh3z9VsNf6xnrRQjKVuAHGbPexoEayzDg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=W3Aq5DI3j4Ehn4Pr2K0MslDJb83MS95CaiSNuS2YVYkryhkE/6oNa/33CrgyVOX1cj MJDubi1ghGVjANWWjnJ7ifNRV3HCEn0dT8/D8R+VpIQGa5nN0qdzV3GHZZs0mMT42PBf xXa8q89iGFP7a6xH9TDVM9V4QXFl2a8wB260Y= Received: by 10.103.241.15 with SMTP id t15mr5150293mur.92.1225407883490; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 16:04:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.103.239.11 with HTTP; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 16:04:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 19:04:42 -0400 From: "Andrey Vul" To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] alsa in-kernel vs. alsa-lib In-Reply-To: Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: X-Archives-Salt: 1a80943c-33d6-4dbb-bbf3-c8c1e43586d2 X-Archives-Hash: 3881d0d245ec60c97a1299e09cd11f8e On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 6:42 PM, Pupino wrote: > Hi all, > i was used to intall alsa-lib and co. and use tools like alsamixer to > manage the audio on my gentoo; now i've tryied to switch to the > in-kernel way. > I've built the relevant part into the kernel, no module, but now i'm stuck. > If i try to emerge alsa-utils (wich has alsamixer) it pulls in also > alsa-lib, alsa-header, etc... > is this the correct behaviour? i tought i'll get rid of those > packages(-header, -lib) switching to the in-kernel drivers. alsa-lib and alsa-headers are unrelated to the kernel modules. alsa-lib and alsa-headers are userspace. If you ditch alsa-lib and go full kernel: Will you have sound? Maybe. Will alsa-using apps be able to use it? Absolutely not. They need alsa-lib. -- Andrey Vul A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?