From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KvNC8-0000TB-QQ for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 02:23:33 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 39718E039A; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 02:23:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mu-out-0910.google.com (mu-out-0910.google.com [209.85.134.191]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13A50E039A for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 02:23:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mu-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id i2so294121mue.6 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:23:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=vMLrSU2Imtm9OBb31qQSgEbcloyNCEyXh+t1D4E9esY=; b=BDDb6I0j0gJ+w468LX2+XLtusd04Phw4sONE+R3zeu/JIUlcWwUBYquaF6KB3Dci5Q MtGH5e53gvv8JKtHyvDwre8F4eKdN2+mJbkkLprCYYGXqjgN13elHzwpJf9REKnTDU5l 6nj6b4/pB7eGvugkWdD3I8h44dntUgKl2Tbd4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=jwqpaQeCpUDM6h7zLC+hADI+Jq9GWFt79WjItrbbYh1gfOQ7o6QPkyN81DVT531Spj Vf6iz+ZSgrH8WfKtvIezHY6BtHG0E+OiDhkCkqw7XGpTvozy7dg5AxLA6OIyKLMt/9B8 4MTeExWhxzX617OsaUJ1xbBT+ni9fZQQC7eZk= Received: by 10.103.198.15 with SMTP id a15mr4589915muq.60.1225333408666; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:23:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.103.204.9 with HTTP; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:23:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 22:23:28 -0400 From: "Andrey Vul" To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Trying to solve blockage when trying to install kde-meta-4.1.2 In-Reply-To: Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <200810291856.49988.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> <20081029204634.4ea4e0fa@digimed.co.uk> X-Archives-Salt: e785e676-4ed0-4ec2-917f-233759030d63 X-Archives-Hash: 3fb3b22461eea72a3fba60daeba144c3 On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 9:44 PM, Joshua Murphy wrote: > On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 7:26 PM, Andrey Vul wrote: >> I don't like package managers which require interactivity. >> emerge -uvDp world | less is easier to parse then emerge -upDa world. >> Why? Because I don't have to find a way of transferring if >> less handles all of the keyboard input. >> So I prefer two stages: >> 1) pretend merge - single verbosity - and look at output >> 2) actual merge - normal / quiet - and pipe to tee > > So what you're saying... is that emerge should have a switch to turn > on, when using -p, -a, and/or -t, a pager? Particularly one that, > until you're content with -a in particular, doesn't accidentally have > a means of handing output back off to the emerge for the yes/no? This Yes. > would spare the double run of the dependency checker while giving > users who want it a pager to use and giving the rest the same > functionality a simple -a gives now... something like etc-update's use > of a pager comes to mind. Let's see... -P is taken for --prune ... > --less/-L or... --more/-m ... --more/-M ? Of course, --pager/-M would > work too, but it's less intuitive (we already have --unmerge/-C ... so > why not, I suppose). Not *quite* sure I'm up to the task at the > moment, though. But I usually use emerge -p > file in order to see the difference in dependencies from testing USE flags. I would always choose -pN over -aN. Where's the portage to-do list? If you can find it, add these two items: fix the uname add pager support for -p, -a, -t -- Andrey Vul A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?