From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <gentoo-user+bounces-85684-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org>) id 1KvMru-0006vV-3z for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 02:02:38 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F3E4BE0469; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 02:02:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fk-out-0910.google.com (fk-out-0910.google.com [209.85.128.191]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A658E046C for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 02:02:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fk-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id 18so98297fks.2 for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:02:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=gksgcAjXmXBqOtxMWxsCNkXz1nAWRa8ziiAAj3BNGTA=; b=dj7W04xPSRpbcrnOi5grlw1H4CV1+jTn5p6MLWFzikwRgfnbsSVx4Kw4KWEjooE88J 22e/ayNDUs5CuNfL6zn5dOviaV/A9ImFMJ5Sw2DtEOMeMO7oWZdAJtkC4Ug3ciD6Mq7e An61TCry2gvE7cDPbX81BQsVQaNy/csZ4hKQs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=qcGjooazXEhZB+ug6f/gvCI6VXewULlKDRd+iXxS/udo9FKVEQFjpA9xZiO23RaXnE G99QmqC7FfZ3Mb9wNyZH8uWfUYsGNKhXMpWBQBGWixUXSM7w8wFOXt7v/mireZ7i6ebe xi44e1/WP0vG0rp0crJx3EBq/tWwxXVLfNxW0= Received: by 10.103.252.17 with SMTP id e17mr4562484mus.115.1225332136889; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:02:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.103.204.9 with HTTP; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:02:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <e38d12ff0810291902i6de9f496vda71215796a12776@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 22:02:16 -0400 From: "Andrey Vul" <andrey.vul@gmail.com> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] A question about emerge --info In-Reply-To: <350fc7cf0810291715q6a0aaeebmbfbaa2ccf60e65f6@mail.gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-user+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-user.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <58965d8a0810291553x50e4068ehc58834dfdbce285b@mail.gmail.com> <350fc7cf0810291609v335f4909nbcd90ab7d368cb5d@mail.gmail.com> <e38d12ff0810291613t6205b80em1294991c930ce1cf@mail.gmail.com> <350fc7cf0810291623j5fb5608rf311cd0d2a371d2a@mail.gmail.com> <e38d12ff0810291632gde628e5p5edadfc87f2704a8@mail.gmail.com> <e38d12ff0810291641t7bb26b6fo1ea6ecc2aa4ef19c@mail.gmail.com> <e38d12ff0810291651y245cba2k89b9cb2b8ee39dd9@mail.gmail.com> <350fc7cf0810291657t20e74d6ag70b05bf8e23973ba@mail.gmail.com> <e38d12ff0810291703m2fa38c97ld7d3731e12bc85c4@mail.gmail.com> <350fc7cf0810291715q6a0aaeebmbfbaa2ccf60e65f6@mail.gmail.com> X-Archives-Salt: 319caf8d-27ed-4731-a6fa-7414185dd644 X-Archives-Hash: 6daac56b1043e201933ea818a68c0b40 On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 8:15 PM, Andrey Falko <ma3oxuct@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 5:03 PM, Andrey Vul <andrey.vul@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > >> > Good digging around :). So this is a python bug then? Or does portage >> > need >> > to be update for some change that went into python? Actually, is this >> > really >> > even a bug...its just a minor cosmetic problem really. >> > >> One's bug is another's feature. >> libc in uname is honestly WTF but this begs the real question: why >> doesn't portage (emerge and repoman to be specific) simply get the >> output of uname -a ? It's not written in C, you don't have to mess >> around with 5-6 fd's to get the needed data. >> >> And I think that this is both a design bug and a red herring. >> >> By the way, should I make a bug report with a patch to remove this issue? >> Making it selectable via FEATURES requires more digging around in portage. >> -- >> Andrey Vul >> >> A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. >> Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? >> A: Top-posting. >> Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? >> > > Maybe we should ask gentoo-dev? The reason not to use uname -a straight up > is because it forces portage to depend on coreutils. Portage ebuilds > currently do not depend on it unless userland_GNU is enabled. I'm split, I > prefer code to always be as easy as possible, yet I don't like unnecessary > dependencies. > According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uname , uname -s -r -m -p is defined for all *nixes (with the exception of -p for HP-UX) Unless you use uname -a, which is only supported in coreutils uname or Darwin/MacOsX uname. -- Andrey Vul A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?