From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KvLMu-000839-QZ for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 00:26:33 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2135FE02F5; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 00:26:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.172]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8FE9E02F5 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 00:26:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 30so754505ugs.39 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:26:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=ueAfyIVWup6/C6I5u7+3dW28C0ydOUgnv64/Mnn2C4g=; b=Xr2Ld6JoEvgRbccvzgEZb9N30mE9Hq2yGCsnk0YW3uDECoibEuJAstWVc+hj9/0wW0 g25bfFsFrWj7KFFnsf//XHjM600hcIcSXLu0LblxIAvInRNbXOkcxqJ3MHGqIBZcDkDY PqvtGIcn+dRrXyvmKoc16uaM+rb62uMu7ZHcI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=VSnMW4EDGpFOC7wVoUmWGEDqYdzWkE7G5RdJ7sN/T57Esq0JrKbBZKuc0PJH+C+27A cqiyT3r/CBK86/yYkM/oMQ0z8Wh8A1PYHsPRT8acf2hfN5M0MaqacotYNAU/1PeyQ92q zCo9D/66dhnS5dfHZhMz1IC+ibdEf9uI5wQ0A= Received: by 10.103.131.18 with SMTP id i18mr4526976mun.116.1225326389864; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:26:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.103.204.9 with HTTP; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:26:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 20:26:29 -0400 From: "Andrey Vul" To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] A question about emerge --info In-Reply-To: <350fc7cf0810291715q6a0aaeebmbfbaa2ccf60e65f6@mail.gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <58965d8a0810291553x50e4068ehc58834dfdbce285b@mail.gmail.com> <350fc7cf0810291609v335f4909nbcd90ab7d368cb5d@mail.gmail.com> <350fc7cf0810291623j5fb5608rf311cd0d2a371d2a@mail.gmail.com> <350fc7cf0810291657t20e74d6ag70b05bf8e23973ba@mail.gmail.com> <350fc7cf0810291715q6a0aaeebmbfbaa2ccf60e65f6@mail.gmail.com> X-Archives-Salt: 3545d826-2006-49d5-ba97-d94751b37452 X-Archives-Hash: 213ee65d534f4923f3c878744a5106c8 On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 8:15 PM, Andrey Falko wrote: > > > On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 5:03 PM, Andrey Vul wrote: >> >> > >> > Good digging around :). So this is a python bug then? Or does portage >> > need >> > to be update for some change that went into python? Actually, is this >> > really >> > even a bug...its just a minor cosmetic problem really. >> > >> One's bug is another's feature. >> libc in uname is honestly WTF but this begs the real question: why >> doesn't portage (emerge and repoman to be specific) simply get the >> output of uname -a ? It's not written in C, you don't have to mess >> around with 5-6 fd's to get the needed data. >> >> And I think that this is both a design bug and a red herring. >> >> By the way, should I make a bug report with a patch to remove this issue? >> Making it selectable via FEATURES requires more digging around in portage. >> -- >> Andrey Vul >> >> A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. >> Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? >> A: Top-posting. >> Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? >> > > Maybe we should ask gentoo-dev? The reason not to use uname -a straight up > is because it forces portage to depend on coreutils. Portage ebuilds > currently do not depend on it unless userland_GNU is enabled. I'm split, I > prefer code to always be as easy as possible, yet I don't like unnecessary > dependencies. > I'm going to try and reverse-engineer uname and make it python-able. I just hope python<->C is much more simple than Java<->C (JNI is a complex, horrible, and ugly piece of bloat). -- Andrey Vul A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?